Truth .. JW Style

Originally posted by Proper Knob
This is laughable Rob, as an atheist i will not pass the test, it's as simple as that. Your own organisation clearly states in writing that only the JW's are to 'gain life in Gods new system', the rest of us are done for. We will be wiped off the face of the earth. We can all read the text and work it our for ourselves. You just haven't got the guts to c beliefs, you're talking about living human beings. It's massively hypocritical of you.

another person that blushes easily, must be your sensitive nature, forum seems filled with such pansies. You are somehow missing the entire point, there are atheists who have became witnesses, there are people who were vehemently opposed who have become witnesses, i myself was one. Until the figurative door is closed everyone gets a chance, that's not about guts, its a simple statement of fact. What is more the Bible itself states that it is those who are doing Gods will that will be saved, if you don't like it, then take the matter up with God.

If we claim that we are the only organisation doing Gods will, then deny that fact, if you cannot then you shall admit, publicly that yes, we are doing Gods will as outlined in scripture and that the statement is correct, we really are the only persons that will stand a chance of being saved on that basis and you shall retract your remarks, of 'i do not see how they can get past their own literature', perhaps you might like to start by telling the forum, what Gods will is, if you do not know, nor cannot say, then how can you qualify your objection to the statement, you are a man, uttering forth nonsense, making statements without knowing what they mean, is that really the case? Do you also do gardening in the dark? let us see, shall we.

Originally posted by divegeester
Don't even go there!

dont worry, unless he has a change of heart, he wont be.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
another person that blushes easily, must be your sensitive nature, forum seems filled with such pansies. You are somehow missing the entire point, there are atheists who have became witnesses, there are people who were vehemently opposed who have become witnesses, i myself was one. Until the figurative door is closed everyone gets a chance, that's n mean, is that really the case? Do you also do gardening in the dark? let us see, shall we.

What on earth are you babbling on about man? Everytime i debate with you i have to hold your hand like a small child and lead you through what we're talking about step by step. I notice it's not just me who has this issue with you.

What is more the Bible itself states that it is those who are doing Gods will that will be saved

Yes and those who aren't won't be saved. I'm not really sure what your issue is here. Your organisation claims that only JW's doing God's work will be saved the rest of us will be gone.

Until the figurative door is closed everyone gets a chance,

And once the door is closed? Who goes through?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
What on earth are you babbling on about man? Everytime i debate with you i have to hold your hand like a small child and lead you through what we're talking about step by step. I notice it's not just me who has this issue with you.

[b]What is more the Bible itself states that it is those who are doing Gods will that will be saved

Yes and those isation claims that only JW's doing God's work will be saved the rest of us will be gone.[/b]

You stated, as an atheist, i shall be wiped out, to which i replied, nobody can say for who is there to say that you shall remain an atheist, for circumstances prompt many to re-evaluate their stance. You replied with blushes and accusations of hypocrisy

Secondly you have taken issue with a statement published in our literature, on the basis that we are the only ones who shall be saved itself made on the basis that we are doing Gods will, are you denying this, if so on what basis are you denying it? that we are not doing Gods will? please tell us then, how you know this to be the case.

those who go through are as the scripture states, the ones doing Gods will.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
You stated, as an atheist, i shall be wiped out, to which i replied, nobody can say for who is there to say that you shall remain an atheist, for circumstances prompt many to re-evaluate their stance.

Secondly you have taken issue with a statement published in our literature, on the basis that we are the only ones who shall be saved itself made on ...[text shortened]... ng it? that we are not doing Gods will? please tell us then, how you know this to be the case.

Yes, and if i remain an atheist i won't be saved will i?

As for the second point, i don't care if you think you're doing God's work, i don't care if you're following scripture to the letter, it's irrelevant. I pulled out the scripture to point out to you that when the day comes only JW's will be saved, non-JW's won't be saved. Vast swathes of mankind will be eradicated.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Yes, and if i remain an atheist i won't be saved will i?

As for the second point, i don't care if you think you're doing God's work, i don't care if you're following scripture to the letter, it's irrelevant. I pulled out the scripture to point out to you that when the day comes only JW's will be saved, non-JW's won't be saved. Vast swathes of mankind will be eradicated.

no its doubtful, but then again, contrary to popular belief, i am not a god.

If you don't care then what is there to discuss, i claim on the basis of scripture that we are indeed the ones doing Gods will, and that the statement therefore is sound, you refuse to confirm or deny it and have no recourse object, other than you don't like it that God must remove those who oppose his will, take the matter up with him then.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no its doubtful, but then again, contrary to popular belief, i am not a god.

If you don't care then what is there to discuss, i claim on the basis of scripture that we are indeed the ones doing Gods will, and that the statement therefore is sound, you refuse to confirm or deny it and have no recourse object, other than you don't like it that God must remove those who oppose his will, take the matter up with him then.

The issue this started with was me stating that after reading many of your posts on JW doctrination over the last year, i've come to the conclusion that it would be best eradicated. You got all uppity about it. I then tried to point out to you that you can hardly get upset about my view on your organisations doctrine, when you yourself believe that at some point in the future vast swathes of mankind will be eradicated.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
The issue this started with was me stating that after reading many of your posts on JW doctrination over the last year, i've come to the conclusion that it would be best eradicated. You got all uppity about it. I then tried to point out to you that you can hardly get upset about my view on your organisations doctrine, when you yourself believe that at some point in the future vast swathes of mankind will be eradicated.

two points worthy of note, the first, the basis is Biblical, all Christians must acknowledge the fact, on the basis of scripture that God will remove those who oppose his will, you simply cannot have a paradise with people that are wishing to establish their own criteria with disregard for Gods will, this is why we as humans are facing the problems we are, i am sure i don't even need to mention the economic, environmental and political catastrophes.

Secondly, i did not originate the idea, its in the Bible, its not mine nor Gods sentiments that people should be removed, you on the other hand expressed your own personal sentiments that you would like to see our ideology eradicated, and i took exception on the basis that i have not done so with yours. why because i realise that you have every right to express your beliefs and your conscience, that is why!

(2 Peter 3:9) . . ., but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance. . .

those are my sentiments!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
two points worthy of note, the first, the basis is Biblical, all Christians must acknowledge the fact, on the basis of scripture that God will remove those who oppose his will, you simply cannot have a paradise with people that are wishing to establish their own criteria with disregard for Gods will, this is why we as humans are facing the problems w ny to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance. . .

those are my sentiments![/b]

and i took exception on the basis that i have not done so with yours

You haven't said that about my ideology, you don't need to make that claim, it's a core part of the Christian faith, as you explained above. When the day comes all atheists will be eradicated. That's what you and every other Christian believes.

You don't need to tell me that you think my ideology should be eradicated i accept that as a given, you believe that you know it will be eradicated along with me and every other non JW.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
[b]and i took exception on the basis that i have not done so with yours

You haven't said that about my ideology, you don't need to make that claim, it's a core part of the Christian faith, as you explained above. When the day comes all atheists will be eradicated. That's what you and every other Christian believes.

You don't need to tell me th ...[text shortened]... ieve that you know it will be eradicated along with me and every other non-believer.[/b]

when God comes you will no longer be an athiest

Originally posted by Proper Knob
[b]and i took exception on the basis that i have not done so with yours

You haven't said that about my ideology, you don't need to make that claim, it's a core part of the Christian faith, as you explained above. When the day comes all atheists will be eradicated. That's what you and every other Christian believes.

You don't need to tell me th ...[text shortened]... ieve that you know it will be eradicated along with me and every other non-believer.[/b]

yes, but its not my personal sentiment is it!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes, but its not my personal sentiment is it!

Of course it is, it's a belief that comes from your brain.

Originally posted by duecer
when God comes you will no longer be an athiest

That's true.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Of course it is, it's a belief that comes from your brain.

no it is not, i do not want to see anyone eradicated, the matter fills me with revulsion, but i realise that i am not a god and therefore if it states it in the ancient text that it will happen, who am i to contend with God.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
That's true.

yes you'll be toast 😛