@ghost-of-a-duke saidWhat about it? You think it warrants a reply?
You appear to have accidentally edited out this part of my post:
(FMF does, even if he only presents that to you rhetorically or at private soirées).
@fmf saidI think it is quite important for Christians like Dive to hear it, having said previously that he doesn't believe altruism exists.
I am fully aware of the Christian perspective. But I don't see what's the benefit of you - of all people - regurgitating it here to Christians who already know what the Christian perspective is, especially when you don't subscribe to it.
@fmf saidYou have a tendency to edit out parts of my posts, even when they are short.
What about it? You think it warrants a reply?
@FMF
Don't you think it odd/interesting that a Christian who believes Jesus died for the sins of mankind doesn't believe in altruistic acts?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidYes, to be precise about it is I am responding to.
You have a tendency to edit out parts of my posts, even when they are short.
Do you think the silly bit of banter at the end of your post warranted a reply?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI didn't agree with divegeester's take on altruism. But I understand his viewpoint. People ~ ordinary mortals ~ have egos that can benefit from altruistic acts. To my way of thinking, a genuinely or perfectly altruistic act is done in secret, where not even the beneficiary knows who the altruist is.
@FMF
Don't you think it odd/interesting that a Christian who believes Jesus died for the sins of mankind doesn't believe in altruistic acts?
@fmf saidI think it quite telling that your question to Dive about his incoherent beliefs was apparently rhetorical, while questions to other posters about their incoherent beliefs are anything but rhetorical. Why does Dive get a let off in this regards?
Yes, to be precise about it is I am responding to.
Do you think the silly bit of banter at the end of your post warranted a reply?
@ghost-of-a-duke saiddivegeester doesn't believe altruism exists
I think it is quite important for Christians like Dive to hear it, having said previously that he doesn't believe altruism exists.
He said that about Jesus's actions, did he?
@fmf saidWhen pushed on this point previously, Dive said even the atonement of Jesus Himself wasn't altruistic. - I forget his reasoning for this. - So it wasn't just ordinary mortals he was referring to.
I didn't agree with divegeester's take on altruism. But I understand his viewpoint. People ~ ordinary mortals ~ have egos that can benefit from altruistic acts. To my way of thinking, a genuinely or perfectly altruistic act is done in secret, where not even the beneficiary knows who the altruist is.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidOne could argue that a rhetorical question is more erudite than rehashing something in public that the two of us have been over many times. I don't see how he has been "let off" at all.
I think it quite telling that your question to Dive about his incoherent beliefs was apparently rhetorical, while questions to other posters about their incoherent beliefs are anything but rhetorical. Why does Dive get a let off in this regards?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidI missed that.
When pushed on this point previously, Dive said even the atonement of Jesus Himself wasn't altruistic. - I forget his reasoning for this. - So it wasn't just ordinary mortals he was referring to.
@fmf saidYes.
divegeester doesn't believe altruism exists
He said that about Jesus's actions, did he?
@ghost-of-a-duke saiddivegeester said even the atonement of Jesus Himself wasn't altruistic
When pushed on this point previously, Dive said even the atonement of Jesus Himself wasn't altruistic. - I forget his reasoning for this. - So it wasn't just ordinary mortals he was referring to.
Perhaps, in accordance with divegeester's hardline definition of altruism, he thought Jesus had something to gain by allowing himself to be executed for sedition.
@fmf saidIs Dive's position so weak to your thinking that it can't endure public scrutiny?
One could argue that a rhetorical question is more erudite than rehashing something in public that the two of us have been over many times. I don't see how he has been "let off" at all.