What!? Not Talk About the Trinity ?

Originally posted by chaney3
Thanks. Regardless of my past posting blunders, I seriously take issue with the fact that the identity of Jesus is a real mess among the population. This forum is but a small example.

This forum is an example of nothing. It's just a very small group of chess players who happen to argue about other stuff.

Also, if you are waiting for unilateral agreement on anything at all, you will wait a long time and miss out on everything.

Originally posted by KellyJay
I said nothing about sin, I said godless.

There are two kinds of people in the world and for you they are-
- Christians
- Everyone else.

However in the Bible the two kinds are -
- Children of God [or those who Jesus will welcome into his Kingdom]
- Children of the Devil {those who will be destroyed]

The difference between these two is explained by John

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. (1 John 3:7-10 KJV-BRG)

The difference is sin. As Paul also explains in Romans 8, the chidren of God have the Spirit of God in them and they live righteously. Those who continue with sin do not have God / Christ in them.

Originally posted by divegeester
This forum is an example of nothing. It's just a very small group of chess players who happen to argue about other stuff.

Also, if you are waiting for unilateral agreement on anything at all, you will wait a long time and miss out on everything.

This forum is a very good example of the different beliefs out there. And regarding Jesus....it doesn't bother you at all to have an entirely different concept of Him, compared to Checkbaiter, Sonship and even Robbie??

Not all of you can be correct at the same time. We don't need to include the rest of the world here, because 4 or more versions if Jesus exist right here on this forum.

Why you are okay with your consisent minimizing of this issue is really surprising.

Jesus said "seek and ye shall find". What I have found is not acceptable. There can only be one correct Jesus.

Originally posted by chaney3
This forum is a very good example of the different beliefs out there.

You have your tongue in your cheek surely?

Surely "a very good example of the different beliefs out there" would be more than a small and relatively narrow selection of mostly OSAS Christians and a smattering of skeptics and atheists?

What is your awareness and perception of "the different beliefs out there"?

Originally posted by chaney3
This forum is a very good example of the different beliefs out there. And regarding Jesus....it doesn't bother you at all to have an entirely different concept of Him, compared to Checkbaiter, Sonship and even Robbie??

Not all of you can be correct at the same time. We don't need to include the rest of the world here, because 4 or more versions if Jesus e ...[text shortened]... ek and ye shall find". What I have found is not acceptable. There can only be one correct Jesus.

What does what others believe have to do with you?

Originally posted by Rajk999
What does what others believe have to do with you?

I could ask you the exact same question. What do you care if they follow the commands of Christ or not??

Originally posted by FMF
You have your tongue in your cheek surely?

Surely "a very good example of the different beliefs out there" would be more than a small and relatively narrow selection of mostly OSAS Christians and a smattering of skeptics and atheists?

What is your awareness and perception of "the different beliefs out there"?

I was referring to Jesus specifically. If 4 people are in a room together, and all 4 see Jesus differently, all with the same bible....no need to look further at that point.
Just my opinion.

Originally posted by chaney3
I was referring to Jesus specifically. If 4 people are in a room together, and all 4 see Jesus differently, all with the same bible....no need to look further at that point.
Just my opinion.

Well if your search is genuine and sincere, then presumably you are also conducting it on at least one Christian web site or message board where schools of thought are propagated and debated. I can't believe, in your earlier post, that you are citing someone like forum oaf robbie carrobie as one of your four sources for information about Jesus Christ. "No need to look further at that point"? 🙄

Originally posted by chaney3
I could ask you the exact same question. What do you care if they follow the commands of Christ or not??

Whether or not others follow Jesus's commandments is of no relevance to my personal life... so I dont care. You however seem to be affected by what others think is the nature of Jesus Christ.

Originally posted by FMF
Well if your search is genuine and sincere, then presumably you are also conducting it on at least one Christian web site or message board where schools of thought are propagated and debated. I can't believe, in your earlier post, that you are citing someone like forum oaf robbie carrobie as one of your four sources for information about Jesus Christ. "No need to look further at that point"? 🙄

My search is far more than this forum. Books, pastors, priests and real life discussions, and all of it is NO different than this forum. If you ask 20 people "who is Jesus", you will get varied answers. And He is supoosed to be our savior.

I don't believe I have ever stated that the RHP Spirituality Forum is going to be my "cure all" to my questions, not sure why you would assume that. I simply come here to ask questions and process the opinons

And despite your comment about Robbie, he is a JW, with his own voice and belief, whether you agree with him or not. I only used him as an example to include the views of JW.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Whether or not others follow Jesus's commandments is of no relevance to my personal life... so I dont care. You however seem to be affected by what others think is the nature of Jesus Christ.

You have already stated on this forum that people can go to heaven (kingdom of God) without believing in God. So I'm sure you don't care about who Jesus really is, but I do. I want to know.

Originally posted by chaney3
You have already stated on this forum that people can go to heaven (kingdom of God) without believing in God. So I'm sure you don't care about who Jesus really is, but I do. I want to know.

That sounds like gibberish or like saying apples and oranges therefore mangoes and grapes.

I know who Jesus is and maybe if your heart was right with God you would as well.

Originally posted by Rajk999
That sounds like gibberish or like saying apples and oranges therefore mangoes and grapes.

I know who Jesus is and maybe if your heart was right with God you would as well.

If someone can go to the Kingdom of God.....without even believing in God, in your stated opinion, then surely....it would follow that a belief in Jesus would also not matter to you. Why the need for any of it then??

Originally posted by chaney3
And despite your comment about Robbie, he is a JW, with his own voice and belief, whether you agree with him or not. I only used him as an example to include the views of JW.

I have known several JWs pretty well - very well in some cases - on three different continents, and I can assure you, if robbie carrobie is your go-to-guy for your search for the identity of Jesus Christ and for a grown up account of what the JW movement [something he has been bringing into disrepute here for years] is all about, then you are just taking the mickey out of your own "search". My ha'penny's worth. 🙂

Originally posted by chaney3
I was referring to Jesus specifically. If 4 people are in a room together, and all 4 see Jesus differently, all with the same bible....no need to look further at that point.
Just my opinion.

If you seek God with a humble heart, earnestly and diligently you will be found of Him.
Meditate on these Proverbs....
Prov 2:1-5
My son, if you receive my words,
And treasure my commands within you,
2 So that you incline your ear to wisdom,
And apply your heart to understanding;
3 Yes, if you cry out for discernment,
And lift up your voice for understanding,
4 If you seek her as silver,
And search for her as for hidden treasures;
5 Then you will understand the fear of the Lord,
And find the knowledge of God.
NKJV