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Could truth ever be convoluted to explain or attempt to explain?

Never?
Possibly truth could involve some convolution of discussion?

Which ?

Can you explain how the universe which is running down has always existed, without some CONVOLUTION of your talk ?

GO. Do it.

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Originally posted by @sonship
But since you admit that you DO NOT KNOW about some of these things (unless you wish to change now and say you DO know) you could be wrong.
I have read maybe a million of your words on these matters. Was that not enough for you to have made a convincing case?

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FMF,

Would you consider an eternally existing universe to be natural or supernatural?

How were the LAWS of physics come about without a legislator ?

Explain without CONVOLUTION please. Thank you.

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Originally posted by @sonship
Could truth ever be convoluted to explain or attempt to explain?
The convoluted nature of the stuff you have extrapolated from ancient mythology and the cult of personality you subscribe to is not credible, not convincing, it sounds man made.

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Originally posted by @fmf
I have read maybe a million of your words on these matters. Was that not enough for you to have made a convincing case?
Congradulation for reading "millions" of words.

Use now just a few words to present your convincing case that a universe which is subject to laws causing it to RUN DOWN, has been around forever.

Without convolution and with a few convincing words - how could this be ?

Thanks.

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Originally posted by @sonship
Congradulation for reading "millions" of words.

Use now just a few words to present your convincing case that a universe which is subject to laws causing it to RUN DOWN, has been around forever.

Without convolution and with a few convincing words - how could this be ?

Thanks.
Let me guess.

"I don't know." ?

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Originally posted by @sonship
How were the LAWS of physics come about without a legislator ? .
This is sophistry. Human legislators pass laws. Word: law. The laws of physics [word: law (again) but a different use of the word, as you well know ~ you've tried this gimmick countless times] and they are descriptions of how the mechanics of the physical world work. The "laws" of physics are not passed by "legislators". This is rank sophistry, wordplay, trite stuff sonship.

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Originally posted by @fmf
The convoluted nature of the stuff you have extrapolated from ancient mythology and the cult of personality you subscribe to is not credible, not convincing, it sounds man made.
Present your uncolvoluted explanation for why a universe which is subject to laws causing it to dissipate and burn out has been here forever without doing so already.

Unconvoluted and lacking in any modern folklore or modern mythology.

Here's your chance to shine.

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Originally posted by @sonship
Congratulations for reading "millions" of words.
Were they not enough for you to have made a convincing case?

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Originally posted by @sonship
Present your uncolvoluted explanation for why a universe which is subject to laws causing it to dissipate and burn out has been here forever without doing so already.
I don't know how long the universe has been here. I don't know the age or the origin of the universe.

Will I be tortured by your god figure, do you think, for saying this?

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Originally posted by @fmf
Were they not enough for you to have made a convincing case?
Who said evidence is persuasion?

Chinese proverb - "A person convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."

Tell us your un-convoluted version of eternally existing matter.

Use no modern new age mythology or modern new age folklore.

How come an eternally existing cosmos has not completely run down by now ?

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Originally posted by @sonship
How come an eternally existing cosmos has not completely run down by now ?
I don't know. You don't know the age of the origin of the universe either.

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Originally posted by @fmf
I don't know. You don't know the age of the origin of the universe either.
Is it permissible for a man such as I to have a belief about it?

Let's say someone claims to have been its Originator AND displays characteristics of Wisdom, Knowledge, Power, and Authority which support the claim.

Is it reasonable for me to believe that what I do not know has been given to me by revelation ?

Possible?
Impossible?

Which?

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Originally posted by @fmf
I don't know. You don't know the age of the origin of the universe either.
By experiencial empirical observation NO ONE purely in the natural realm knows.

Is all belief about it "folklore," "mythology," and "superstition" necessarily?

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Originally posted by @sonship
Is it permissible for a man such as I to have a belief about it?
Of course it is "permissible". You can believe what you want. It doesn't really affect me.

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