Who is an antichrist

Originally posted by KellyJay
I believe it is true, it is going to happen!
Now do I have to like it, no. Do I have to even agree with it for me to believe
it is true and going to happen, no. I do not turn on reality by those things
I like and agree with or that I dislike and disagree with.

Regardless of whether you have to or not, do you "like" the "eternal torture" ideology? Do you agree with it as being a good ideology?

Originally posted by KellyJay
I believe it is true, it is going to happen!
Now do I have to like it, no. Do I have to even agree with it for me to believe
it is true and going to happen, no. I do not turn on reality by those things
I like and agree with or that I dislike and disagree with.
Kelly

So you follow the teachings of a God who's course of action you do not agree with or even like?

FMF: So your "sin" is of no consequence if you believe in Jesus, is that what you mean?

Originally posted by KellyJay
No, it was paid for by someone I care about who cares for me in a very
painful way.

So even if you "sin" you escape the being tortured for eternity in burning agony thing?

Originally posted by KellyJay
If you were a Christian you'd know it isn't our works that saves us, it isn't anything we do, it is Christ. We are to follow God's Spirit, without which you do not belong to God. It is a living faith, not one that is laid out in pure standards alone.

So your "sin" is of no consequence to you personally ~ aside for the hurt you feel about Jesus' execution ~ if you believe in Jesus, right?

Originally posted by FMF
Regardless of whether you have to or not, do you "like" the "eternal torture" ideology? Do you agree with it as being a good ideology?

Why would I like someone suffering for eternity, no I do not like the idea.
That does not at all mean that I get to say it isn't going to happen and it is
not real. For all I know too, once God reveals everything to everyone, than
everyone would agree it is the right thing to do, who knows, at least who
knows now?
Kelly

Originally posted by Proper Knob
So you follow the teachings of a God who's course of action you do not agree with or even like?

Yes, I believe He see more clearly that I do in all things.
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
So even if you "sin" you escape the being tortured for eternity in burning agony thing?

Do you realize a ton of your posts all start with, "So..." you should work on
that! I've answered this before more than once, done with this question.
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
So your "sin" is of no consequence [b]to you personally ~ aside for the hurt you feel about Jesus' execution ~ if you believe in Jesus, right?[/b]

No believing in Jesus is not enough, as I pointed out to you before the
devil believes in Jesus, it will do him no good.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
No believing in Jesus is not enough, as I pointed out to you before the
devil believes in Jesus, it will do him no good.

If "believing in Jesus is not enough", and your "sin" are already paid for, does this mean you believe you have to do good works too?

Originally posted by FMF
If "believing in Jesus is not enough", and your "sin" are already paid for, does this mean you believe you have to do good works too?

I believe I have to invite Christ into my life, so when God gives me and
everyone else who belongs to Him the Holy Spirit, we will do the works God
has for us. It is after all the relationship with God that Christ restored.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Yes, I believe He see more clearly that I do in all things.
Kelly

And therein lies one of the biggest dangers of religion.
Adherents blindly obeying - even when it is against their own values.

Born in another place you could have been a suicide bomber.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
And therein lies one of the biggest dangers of religion.
Adherents blindly obeying - even when it is against their own values.

Born in another place you could have been a suicide bomber.

But he wasn't.

HalleluYah !!! Praise the LORD! Holy! Holy! Holy!

Originally posted by KellyJay
I believe I have to invite Christ into my life, so when God gives me and
everyone else who belongs to Him the Holy Spirit, we will do the works God
has for us. It is after all the relationship with God that Christ restored.

Are you saying that what you need to do is "invite Christ into my life" and then beyond that your "sins" are already "paid for" beforehand by Christ and that "good works" are not necessary for "salvation"?

Originally posted by FMF
Are you saying that what you need to do is "invite Christ into my life" and then beyond that your "sins" are already "paid for" beforehand by Christ and that "good works" are not necessary for "salvation"?

Okay, around and around we go again. We have covered this ground and if
you were telling us the truth about your past you should know. I think I'm
a hair away from just writing off ever having another conversation with you.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Yes, I believe He see more clearly that I do in all things.
Kelly

As Wolfgang alluded to, that's a very dangerous mindset.