Who is an antichrist

Originally posted by wolfgang59
You are seriously screwed up if you see taxation as evil.

My bad, cheating on one's taxes was my point.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
My bad, cheating on one's taxes was my point.
Kelly

So this was a typo?
"... from taxing those richer than themselves ..."

Originally posted by wolfgang59
So this was a typo?
"... from taxing those richer than themselves ..."

The notion that taxation is "evil" has plenty of traction on the right in the U.S., especially among religious fundamentalists on the right. It comes up on the Debates Forum from time to time too, where there are some who think that taxation exists means there can be no freedom.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
So this was a typo?
"... from taxing those richer than themselves ..."

That wasn't, many people seem to think taxing those with more than them
is far better than paying more themselves.
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
The notion that taxation is "evil" has plenty of traction on the right in the U.S., especially among religious fundamentalists on the right. It comes up on the Debates Forum from time to time too, where there are some who think that taxation exists means there can be no freedom.

Taxation isn't evil in and of itself. Using it as a weapon or a tool to force
certain things to happen and stopping others could be thought of as evil
depending on what is or isn't stopped or pushed upon people.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
That wasn't, many people seem to think taxing those with more than them
is far better than paying more themselves.

Is progressive taxation "evil"?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Taxation isn't evil in and of itself. Using it as a weapon or a tool to force
certain things to happen and stopping others could be thought of as evil
depending on what is or isn't stopped or pushed upon people.

I take this to mean that using tax as a tool to force certain things to happen and to stop other things could be thought of as "good" depending on what is or isn't stopped or encouraged in society, right?

Originally posted by FMF
Is progressive taxation "evil"?

If you are asking me is it okay to treat one differently than another, I'd
say no. Why not tax everyone equally with the same amount at all times
regardless of income? It would do away with the power of the state since
they put in the loop holes for themselves and friends. Not sure what this
line of questions have to the do with the antichrist, I'm sure you'll get to it.
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
I take this to mean that using tax as a tool to force certain things to happen and to stop other things could be thought of as "good" depending on what is or isn't stopped or encouraged in society, right?

Income tax really isn't an income tax it is more of a lifestyle tax since they
give breaks for some things and not others. It is control.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
If you are asking me is it okay to treat one differently than another, I'd
say no. Why not tax everyone equally with the same amount at all times
regardless of income? It would do away with the power of the state since
they put in the loop holes for themselves and friends. Not sure what this
line of questions have to the do with the antichrist, I'm sure you'll get to it.

I didn't ask you if you had an alternative tax scheme to suggest. I asked you if you think progressive taxation "evil".

Originally posted by KellyJay
Income tax really isn't an income tax it is more of a lifestyle tax since they
give breaks for some things and not others. It is control.
Kelly

An answer to my question would be more interesting. If the "control" is for "good" ends [as, say, you perceive them] you agree with it, right?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Not sure what this line of questions have to the do with the antichrist, I'm sure you'll get to it.

Well it was you who suggested that people "taxing those richer than themselves" was an example of "evil". You brought it up. Not me.

Originally posted by FMF
I didn't ask you if you had an alternative tax scheme to suggest. I asked you if you think progressive taxation "evil".

I think it is unfair to tax one at a lower rate than another, so yes.
Kelly

Originally posted by FMF
Well it was you who suggested that people "taxing those richer than themselves" was an example of "evil". You brought it up. Not me.

I think it shows how selfish we are! We are willing to harm another
instead of sharing the pain ourselves.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I think it is unfair to tax one at a lower rate than another, so yes.
Kelly

You believe 'unfairness' = "evil"?