Who will stand with me?

Originally posted by @secondson
And there is the Jesus of the Bible, which abundantly and clearly teaches that Jesus is God in the flesh, and there is the Jesus which you say isn't God.

And there is the gospel that Paul preached, and there is the gospel which isn't that you preach.

Funny how that works isn't it?

Originally posted by @secondson
Rajk thinks one must stop sinning or you're a goat.

So does ThinkOfOne.

But neither of them will say whether or not they have stopped sinning, even when asked.

Don't try to reference Romans 7 or Galatians 5 because he will then say it's "church doctrine" and not discuss the content and meaning of the relevant verses.

Originally posted by @rajk999
Paul said that the Christian must work for a good confession by keeping the commandments

Originally posted by @rajk999
Jesus said that the goats are those who do not do good works. I do not answer, neither ask personal questions so you do not know what I do and neither do I know what you do but you preach a doctrine of no good works therefore you are a goat

Originally posted by @rajk999
Jesus said that the goats are those who do not do good works. I do not answer, neither ask personal questions so you do not know what I do and neither do I know what you do but you preach a doctrine of no good works therefore you are a goat

Originally posted by @rajk999
I follow Jesus. who said his Father is greater.

Originally posted by @secondson
And you think you must work for salvation, and maybe, just maybe, when your "works" are weighed at the judgement, they may tip the scale in you favor.

Never mind that Jesus paid your sin debt in full on the cross. You think you need to add to it to be saved, and even then you won't know for sure till judgement day.

That ain't the gospel.

Originally posted by @secondson
Salvation is a free gift of God's grace. You can't earn salvation.

Doesn't mean one shouldn't do good works.

That's your problem. You equate salvation, and the acquisition of it, to the performance of good works.

That's not the gospel of the grace of God. That's the law, which you can't keep no matter how hard you try.

Originally posted by @secondson
I know what you do, and I know what you are.

You're a sinner just like the rest of us.

Question is, are you a sinner saved by grace and not by works?

Originally posted by @secondson
Right. You're saying that God didn't become a man. You're saying there is no incarnation. You're saying that the Godhead isn't three distinct personalities in one. You're saying Jesus isn't God.

You're saying you're a Jehovah's Witness, that you hold to the heretical teachings of the watchtower babble and cracked society.

Originally posted by @rajk999
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, [b]work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. (Philippians 2:12 KJV)

Jesus died for past sins.
If a Christian continues in sins there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.
Christians continuing to sin wilfully will not inherit the Kingdom of God.[/b]

Originally posted by @rajk999
Jesus equated eternal life in the Kingdom of God with good works.
Its all in Matt 25.
Those who do good works will enter
Those who do no good works will be cast out.
Simple

Originally posted by @rajk999
I am a disciple of Christ.
Im like Simon Peter.
God has revealed to me that Jesus is His Son
Thats all I need to know.

I dont need to know neither understand your church doctrine.
Heresy is a departure of the teachings of Christ and the Apostles.
You are the one promoting heretical teachings.

Thread update:

I was so excited by the vote tally so far (3-0 in tiger’s favor) that I couldn’t wait to share the good news with “tiger,” the adorable third-grade scamp at Shetland Primary who loves to drink ale and eat PB&J sandwiches with the crusts cut off.

Unfortunately, when I told him the good news, his mouth was stuffed with PB&J, and he blurted out, “Mway weely mwike me! Mway weely mwike me!!”

PB and jelly was flying out of his mouth and I was alarmed at the thought of him choking, so I cried out, “tiger! Drink your ale so I can understand you!”

After guzzling the entire pint, tiger blurted out, “They really like me! They really like me!”

Originally posted by @caissad4 :Back in the 70's some of us used the word (pronounced schtum) but spelled Xtum. For us it was when (in a group setting) someone would ask a question of the group and it was met with total silence.
I've never heard this word before. What is its etymology? Where does it come from?
Suzi:
This is maybe the most interesting part of this thread. The rest is just "same old, same old".

It's borrowed from German, "Stumm" (pronounced Schtum) which means silent, as in Stummfilme (silent movies, Rudolph Valentino, etc.).