Who will stand with me?

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
What he wants? = Attention.
What he needs? = Lobotomy.

Is this another example of you ignoring me and my posts?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Did the group of mental health professionals you manage tell you you need a lobotomy?😲 I would ask for a second opinion if I were you.

And the second opinion should be from people who exist outside of his imagination.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I love tiger. It's a pity the anti-tiger squad have taken an oath of silence, I guess that's their loss in terms of this important vote.

Ignoring the situation doesn't make it go away, this is a matter of principle and integrity.

I'm not requesting you support me, I'm requesting that you choose, that you let your principle and integrity over come your dislike of me or your disapproval of tiger’s detractors.

Originally posted by @whodey
What exactly do you want?

As I have said quite clearly near the start of this thread, this topic is not about doctrine or liberal Christian attitudes, it is about ONE thing only...are you ashamed of tiger.

Originally posted by @romans1009
As I have said quite clearly near the start of this thread, this topic is not about doctrine or liberal Christian attitudes, it is about ONE thing only...are you ashamed of tiger.

I've disagreed with a good bit of what he has said. However, what his ultimate fate is shall not be decided by me.

Tiger knows what the scriptures say, at least from previous conversations with him. It is now up to him to decide.

I've often been fascinated with how Jesus relayed who he was and what he was about to his followers. He did not go around bashing people over the head telling them he was the Son of God. For if he had, they would have stoned him for blasphemy much earlier. As a result, he forbad his followers from even mentioning this fact to anyone. The most interesting part though is, he did not ever tell anyone. He asked his disciples who he was and it was only Peter who guessed right. He then turned to him and said that the Father had revealed this to him and not to tell a soul. Imagine that, God in the flesh right in front of you telling you to keep it a secret.

I think we all are like Peter. Only the Father can reveal that to us, even today.

Originally posted by @whodey
I've disagreed with a good bit of what he has said. However, what his ultimate fate is shall not be decided by me.

Tiger knows what the scriptures say, at least from previous conversations with him. It is now up to him to decide.

I've often been fascinated with how Jesus relayed who he was and what he was about to his followers. He did not go around ...[text shortened]... a secret.

I think we all are like Peter. Only the Father can reveal that to us, even today.

<<I've often been fascinated with how Jesus relayed who he was and what he was about to his followers. He did not go around bashing people over the head telling them he was the Son of God. For if he had, they would have stoned him for blasphemy much earlier. As a result, he forbad his followers from even mentioning this fact to anyone. The most interesting part though is, he did not ever tell anyone. He asked his disciples who he was and it was only Peter who guessed right. He then turned to him and said that the Father had revealed this to him and not to tell a soul. Imagine that, God in the flesh right in front of you telling you to keep it a secret.

I think we all are like Peter. Only the Father can reveal that to us, even today.[/b]>>

Totally agree and we’ll never know who Jesus Christ truly was or come to salvation on a carnal level; only a spiritual level.

Our carnal mind may acquire evidence of Jesus Christ’s Resurrection that weakens our resistance to the Truth, but I think realizing and accepting the Truth has to happen spiritually.

Originally posted by @romans1009
<<I've often been fascinated with how Jesus relayed who he was and what he was about to his followers. He did not go around bashing people over the head telling them he was the Son of God. For if he had, they would have stoned him for blasphemy much earlier. As a result, he forbad his followers from even mentioning this fact to anyone. The most inter ...[text shortened]... esistance to the Truth, but I think realizing and accepting the Truth has to happen spiritually.

Do threads like this help?

Originally posted by @secondson
I remember that thread. Dive made a good confession [hidden]more of a profession in my opinion[/hidden] of faith claiming Jesus as his Lord in spite of his human shortcomings, which we all share.

And romans posted next a positive affirmation, then I did the same next.

And then next the naysaying belligerent troll chimed in tearing it all down with h ...[text shortened]... a follower of Jesus, but looks and sounds like his real father. You know the one I mean, right?

I quoted one passage from Paul about what it entails to have a good confession and this is your response to what Paul said ..

And then next the naysaying belligerent troll [Paul] chimed in tearing it all down with his pharisaical and legalistic self serving false doctrine of condemnation, ridicule and hateful malignant speech.

Originally posted by @rajk999
I quoted one passage from Paul about what it entails to have a good confession and this is your response to what Paul said ..

And then next the naysaying belligerent troll [Paul] chimed in tearing it all down with his pharisaical and legalistic self serving false doctrine of condemnation, ridicule and hateful malignant speech.

I was referring to what you said in reply to the OP.

"Sounds like more church speak" is what you said. You couldn't bring yourself to say anything positive about divegeester's confession of faith in Jesus Christ. No, instead you used Paul as your bully pulpit to condemn.

If you're so into Paul why don't you take to heart his exhortation in Ephesians 4? - "Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers."

Originally posted by @secondson
I was referring to what you said in reply to the OP.

"Sounds like more church speak" is what you said. You couldn't bring yourself to say anything positive about divegeester's confession of faith in Jesus Christ. No, instead you used Paul as your bully pulpit to condemn.

If you're so into Paul why don't you take to heart his exhortation in Ephesians ...[text shortened]... th, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers."

Paul described a GOOD CONFESSION.
What Dive described has nothing in common with what Paul described.

They are two different things.

Originally posted by @suzianne
I've answered this question so many times in this forum on numerous occasions, all because your main interest in this forum is inevitably yourself, that one might be excused in thinking that you have finally figured this out.

Apparently not, because apparently you're just not done trolling for compliments.

Not surprising, because that's literally all you do here.

Sorry, but I've never been a member of your mutual masturbation society.

So how does one go about signing up for this Mutual Masturbation Society? Asking for a friend.

Originally posted by @rajk999
Paul described a GOOD CONFESSION.
What Dive described has nothing in common with what Paul described.

They are two different things.

"My confession is that...Jesus Christ is my Lord and saviour."

That's what divegeester said. You're saying it's not a "GOOD CONFESSION" because you've decided that a good confession is contained in and confined to just a few verses by Paul.

Romans 10:9,10
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Is that confession not "good" enough for you?

1 Timothy 6:13
I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;

That's the only verse in the New Testament that contains the words "good confession", and it refers to the confession that Jesus witnessed to Pontius Pilate.

Didn't know that did you?

Rajk, I'm sorry, but you just don't know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by @secondson
That's what divegeester said.

This is what he said:

Confess here folks... My confession is that despite my faults, my lack of faith, my sin, my unbelief and my selfish perspective...I can sincerely confess that Jesus Christ is my Lord and saviour. I stand by this statement not in my own strength but through him who upholds me. Jesus is Lord.

There is no repentance. No resolution to be better. Just a kind of 'Oh well, I'm a Christian' self-absolution. divegeester is to be commended for his humility and his candour and for his self-awareness and lack of pretentiousness, for sure.

But for a confession to be "good", surely it should be a spur to change, an increment towards living a better life or living life in a better way, rather than a kind of resignation.

There should surely be some genuine penance and determination to lift oneself and change. I see none of this in his confession. I just see an assertion of his faith intertwined with a kind of passivity.

Is that good enough to qualify as "good"? I don't think so.

Originally posted by @hand-of-hecate
So how does one go about signing up for this Mutual Masturbation Society? Asking for a friend.

LOL!

Post of the year!

Originally posted by @fmf
This is what he said:

[b]Confess here folks... My confession is that despite my faults, my lack of faith, my sin, my unbelief and my selfish perspective...I can sincerely confess that Jesus Christ is my Lord and saviour. I stand by this statement not in my own strength but through him who upholds me. Jesus is Lord.

There is no repentance. No resolutio ...[text shortened]... twined with a kind of passivity.

Is that good enough to qualify as "good"? I don't think so.[/b]

<<But for a confession to be "good", surely it should be a spur to change, an increment towards living a better life or living life in a better way, rather than a kind of resignation.>>

Not so sure this assertion is correct, Kiddo. Look at the Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector and how the tax collector was justified:

“And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.”

(Luke 18:9-14)