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26 Jun 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterHow many people think I didn't answer this ?
You haven’t refuted anything chap.
If I reject your teaching of eternal suffering, am I precluded from salvation?
Am I, or am I not?
Tough doctrinal question for you teacher...
Before I cut and paste at least one recent addressing of THIS very question, who else thinks I didn't answer this ?
Just write "Me" so I can see who you are.
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Folks Divegeester is real tough, isn't he ?
I wouldn't want to run into him in some dark alley at night, I tell you that.
Who thinks I didn't address his question "Is belief in eternal damnation mandatory in being a believer in Jesus ?"
Who thinks he has NOT been replied to on this by me specifically ?
26 Jun 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterGod is good what He does is good! You should be able to figure it out since He is judging and passing judgment it will be just, Holy, good and righteous!
You may have responded to my post, but you most certainly haven’t answered the question and I find endlessly interesting that none of you hellers will answer it...unequivocally.
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26 Jun 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayYour god has deliberately, and with aforethought, created a place of the most unimaginable horror for billions of people whom he claims to have loved so much that he died for them.
God is good what He does is good! You should be able to figure it out since He is judging and passing judgment it will be just, Holy, good and righteous!
So let’s assume that they rejected him, that they even hated him...is that a reason to burn them alive for eternity?
Please just stop and think about this, for a few moments.
Thank you.
26 Jun 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayGod is good and just I agree.
God is good what He does is good! You should be able to figure it out since He is judging and passing judgment it will be just, Holy, good and righteous!
It is your OPINION that people have a problem with.
Your OPINION that all people will either be
- tormented for eternity or
- live in paradise for eternity.
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Originally posted by @kellyjay"...because sin cannot just be forgotten there had to be some just consequence for each thought, deed, and word."
What I have said is that we were all designed to live forever, this life is short and has an end
the next does not. Nothing of evil is going to pass into the Kingdom of God that is about to
come, nothing that causes sin, nothing that loves sin. Where does that leave sinners, not
in the Kingdom of God. The messaged conveyed by Jesus is that He took our s ...[text shortened]... y real fate that is waiting for all outside the grace of God,
which is paying for our own sins.
Why?!
Edit: One of the reasons I am not a fan of Quentin Tarantino films is his propensity to tie up all the loose ends in a nice little bow (like a story penned by a child). - Why can't God simply forget sin? He's God after all. Why does each thought, deed, and word have to have a consequence? Why go to such lengths to punish unbelievers?
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26 Jun 18
Originally posted by @divegeester
Your god has deliberately, and with aforethought, created a place of the most unimaginable horror for billions of people whom he claims to have loved so much that he died for them.
So let’s assume that they rejected him, that they even hated him...is that a reason to burn them alive for eternity?
Please just stop and think about this, for a few moments.
Thank you.
Your god has deliberately,
Curious here.
You say Kelly's God is "your god". And you believe that God in Jesus Christ DID put these words into the mouth of Jesus.
" But I will show you whom you should fear, fear Him who after killing, has the authority to cast into Gehenna,
yes, I tell you, fear this One." (Luke 12:5)
So do you refer to the Father of Jesus Christ ALSO dismissively as .... "His god" ?
26 Jun 18
Originally posted by @fmfIt is foundational all truth comes from God, the whole of scripture speaks to this! Jesus went so far too say only God the Father is good. If you question this what is it that you believe, that God is good except when He isn’t?
This is simply raw, unselfconsciously circular logic.
26 Jun 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayThen rather than arguing that angry vengeful torture is morally good because your God is good, try arguing that your God is good because angry vengeful torture is intrinsically morally good. Your assertions lack any moral content, and your dogged insistence and earnestness adds nothing.
It is foundational all truth comes from God, the whole of scripture speaks to this! Jesus went so far too say only God the Father is good. If you question this what is it that you believe, that God is good except when He isn’t?
26 Jun 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeUnlike you apparently, most people get a strong sense of satisfaction when the antagonist gets his just due by the hand of the protagonist just before the movie ends.
"...because sin cannot just be forgotten there had to be some just consequence for each thought, deed, and word."
Why?!
Edit: One of the reasons I am not a fan of Quentin Tarantino films is his propensity to tie up all the loose ends in a nice little bow (like a story penned by a child). - Why can't God simply forget sin? He's God after al ...[text shortened]... hought, deed, and word have to have a consequence? Why go to such lengths to punish unbelievers?