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‘Eternal suffering’ is nonsensical

‘Eternal suffering’ is nonsensical

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dj2becker

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Originally posted by @rajk999
There are two kinds of people in this world, those who are welcomed into the Kingdom of God and those who are cast out.

DOERS ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD
TALKERS ONLY WILL BE CAST OUT.

In this scenario of the woman was a doer, a helper, and one who showed LOVE AND COMPASSION to those in need. This the essence of the teachings of Christ. All that BS you ...[text shortened]... e who follow your doctrine will end up with the mouth worshiping hypocrites in the lake of fire.
What is your take on the doctrine of regeneration and walking in the spirit?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Assuming you were intrinsically good would you ever love evil or would you hate it?
Jog on, you tedious human being.


I have asked you repeatedly not to respond to my posts. I have no interest in communicating with you on any level. If you have any remnant of respect in you, please do as requested.

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Originally posted by @ragwort
The problem, of course, is the final disposition.
Really, who cares how much reward they get for a life lived nobly and in service to other people, if all of it is burned in the end?


Really? "For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in" ?
Context is key.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
What is your take on the doctrine of regeneration and walking in the spirit?
The Regeneration preached by the sonship type and others is bull.

Anyone can walk in the spirit. Walking in the spirit just means to do as Jesus Christ commanded. Many people do it .. particularly nonChristians.

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Originally posted by @sonship to ghost of a duke
But Jesus gave His life for her. Your concern comes nowhere close to the concern of Jesus for her.
This comment by you sounds tawdry and actually quite ridiculous when cast against the backdrop of your version of Jesus in hell overseeing this lady being tortured alive for eternity, which is exactly the point of my OP and which you have exemplified here very nicely, thank you.

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Assuming God was intrinsically good would He ever be able to love evil or would He hate it?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Assuming God was intrinsically good would He ever be able to love evil or would He hate it?
This is the kind of thinking that man has tried for thousands of years now, with less than stellar results. Some 'good' or 'evil' is obvious, but the problem arises when the 'good' and 'evil' are more subjective. Who makes the call? You? Me?

This is why we are instructed to "love God with all of our heart" AND to "love your neighbor as you love yourselves". Judgement is not our job.

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Originally posted by @suzianne
This is the kind of thinking that man has tried for thousands of years now, with less than stellar results. Some 'good' or 'evil' is obvious, but the problem arises when the 'good' and 'evil' are more subjective. Who makes the call? You? Me?

This is why we are instructed to "love God with all of our heart" AND to "love your neighbor as you love yourselves". Judgement is not our job.
Apparently, since a universal ancestor ate an apple we can make the call, which seems to me to leave us with the responsibility to do so.

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Originally posted by @rajk999
The Regeneration preached by the sonship type and others is bull.

Anyone can walk in the spirit. Walking in the spirit just means to do as Jesus Christ commanded. Many people do it .. particularly nonChristians.
Most likely you are a "false brother" (2 Cor. 11:26).

The initial command of Christ to believe into Him you
have probably never obeyed.

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Originally posted by @sonship to Rajk999
Most likely you are a "false brother" (2 Cor. 11:26).
You said that Rajk999 is "being used by demons" and involved in "demonic activity". Are there any other Christian posters on this forum apart from Rajk999 who you believe are "being used by demons"?

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Originally posted by @divegeester
This comment by you sounds tawdry and actually quite ridiculous when cast against the backdrop of your version of Jesus in hell overseeing this lady being tortured alive for eternity, which is exactly the point of my OP and which you have exemplified here very nicely, thank you.
After reading this, I checked my Bible. Whatever you say it still says that whoever's name was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Rev. 20:15)

You can talk about women being tortured. But the passage remains.
You can add that there are endless shrieks of agonizing pain as Jesus observes and I laugh.
You can embellish and add and reinforce to intensify the feeling of disgust, and revulsion as much as you possibly can.

The Scripture still says what it says (Rev. 20:15).
Don't "thank" me.

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Originally posted by @sonship to divegeester
After reading this, I checked my Bible. Whatever you say it still says that whoever's name was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. [b](Rev. 20:15)

You can talk about women being tortured. But the passage remains.
You can add that there are endless shrieks of agonizing pain as Jesus observes and I lau ...[text shortened]...

The Scripture still says what it says (Rev. 20:15).
Don't "thank" me.[/b]
Is divegeester "being used by demons" and involved in "demonic activity"?

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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Jog on, you tedious human being.


I have asked you repeatedly not to respond to my posts. I have no interest in communicating with you on any level. If you have any remnant of respect in you, please do as requested.
I could well ask the same of you.
Around here if you want to examine others you should be willing to be cross-examined yourself.

I could avoid some tedium and ask you to stop responding to my posts.

Then if a poster cannot cross-examine you,
then I can ask you not to respond to me as well.

Should we play it that way?

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Originally posted by @fmf
Is divegeester "being used by demons" and involved in "demonic activity"?
I don't know about that, but I do notice that you two are using each other.

Looks like the Unitarian / Atheist tag team.

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Critics of the teaching of eternal punishment should spend more time on two more effective methods or countering the plain words of Sripture, if they want to be convincing to me.

1.) Provide alternative interpretations to some fearsome passages in the Bible.

Or

2.) Provide textural evidence that mean sounding verses were artificially added to the New Testament books after their being written

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