12 Jun 12
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Originally posted by no1marauderActually, there were 3 blown saves, 5 wins, 5 ND, 1 SV for the ones I checked.
If you have the dates it's easy enough to check: go to this site http://www.baseball-reference.com/ then to the team and then to its Schedule.
I'll wager most of those 2 IP games weren't even save situations but tie games where the closer couldn't get a save because he was pitching for the home team.
For example, Fernando Ro ...[text shortened]... other hand, Joe Nathan of the Rangers hasn't pitched more than 1 inning in a game all year.
I limited them to the closers, not just relievers. All of the relievers checked were
in the top 10 in total saves in each league.
12 Jun 12
Originally posted by shortcircuitName the games; in order for your claim to be correct the closer must have entered at the start of the 8th with his team ahead by three runs.
Actually, there were 3 blown saves, 5 wins, 5 ND, 1 SV for the ones I checked.
I limited them to the closers, not just relievers. All of the relievers checked were
in the top 10 in total saves in each league.
12 Jun 12
Originally posted by no1marauderCopy of the post three posts ago. Please re-read.
Name the games; in order for your claim to be correct the closer must have entered at the start of the 8th with his team ahead by three runs.
"Tell me what the scores were of each game.
You haven't researched squat.
List the reliever and the date the game was pitched.
I kept a log of them. I just told you I didn't check whether there was a 3 run lead or not.
It shouldn't make a ton of difference though.
It is a save situation."
Your next condition is the reliever had to be Dominican and have a team run by a black manager.
Arguing logic with you is pointless.
You don't have a grasp on the concept and I accept the fact that you are obtuse.
12 Jun 12
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Originally posted by shortcircuitI gave you a site where you can easily find any games that "you made a log of". If you're too lazy to use it, give me the games and I'll do it for you.
Copy of the post three posts ago. Please re-read.
"Tell me what the scores were of each game.
You haven't researched squat.
List the reliever and the date the game was pitched.
I kept a log of them. [b] I just told you I didn't check whether there was a 3 run lead or not.
It shouldn't make a ton of difference though.
It is a save situation intless.
You don't have a grasp on the concept and I accept the fact that you are obtuse.[/b]
YOU insisted that Dusty should have brought in his closer to start the 8th with a three run lead. YOU insisted that other managers would have. Prove it; show me a single game this year where ANY manager has done so.
Or shut up after admitting you were wrong.
12 Jun 12
Originally posted by no1marauderAre you saying there has never been a 2 inning save where the closer was brought in with a 3 run lead?
I gave you a site where you can easily find any games that "you made a log of". If you're too lazy to use it, give me the games and I'll do it for you.
YOU insisted that Dusty should have brought in his closer to start the 8th with a three run lead. YOU insisted that other managers would have. Prove it; show me a single game this year where ANY manager has done so.
Or shut up after admitting you were wrong.
Or are you saying there hasn't been one this season?
If it is just this season, your claim bears no weight.
I said it has been done. Period.
You can go research every game until you are blue in the face.
Your condition is ridiculous that you could differentiate between a 3 run lead and a two
run lead with the bases empty. It is also ridiculous that you don't equate this "save"
situation (a 3 run lead with no outs is a save situation in case you didn't know),
with putting your closer in to pitch 2 innings in a tie game that there is no possibility
of a save.
I have forgotten more about pitching than you will ever know, so give it a rest.
12 Jun 12
Originally posted by shortcircuitIn other words, you were wrong.
Are you saying there has never been a 2 inning save where the closer was brought in with a 3 run lead?
Or are you saying there hasn't been one this season?
If it is just this season, your claim bears no weight.
I said it has been done. Period.
You can go research every game until you are blue in the face.
Your condition is ridiculous that you c ...[text shortened]... a save.
I have forgotten more about pitching than you will ever know, so give it a rest.
Thanks for sharing. Dusty Baker knows more about baseball than you ever did so that just makes you a loudmouthed, ill-informed second guesser who can't even back up his claims with any facts to support them.
14 Jun 12
Originally posted by whodeyReds shell the Indians and sweep the series. Things change, whodey.
Ugly, ugly, ugly game. Right now Chapman could not get his own grandmother out at the plate.
Looking ahead the Reds have a brutal schedule. They play mostly good teams like the Mets and American league teams like the Indains. Interleague play has traditionally been brutal for the Reds. In addition, they will then start a West coast road trip which is a ...[text shortened]... mess. I would consider moving him to the bottom of the line up if I were Dusty, but he won't.
15 Jun 12
Originally posted by shortcircuitLooks like Josh is taking the month of June off; through 13 games his numbers are: 1 HR, 5 RBI, .196/.281/.353. He's went from MVP to Willy Mo Pena.
Of course, Josh could take the month of June off and Votto would still trail his numbers.
You are next "spin doctor"
The best hitter in baseball June' numbers: 12 games, 4 HR, 15 RBI .500/.574/1.460
16 Jun 12
Check this out:
The human Astounding Fact, Joey Votto, went into the weekend on a pace for 201 hits and an incredible 136 walks. If he can keep that up, he'll be in ridiculously rarified territory -- because only one player in history has ever drawn that many walks in a 200-hit season. And I'm betting you've heard of him:
Babe Ruth, 1923: 170 walks, 205 hits
Babe Ruth, 1921: 145 walks, 204 hits
Babe Ruth, 1924: 142 walks, 200 hits
1A But suppose Votto slides to "only" 120 walks. Still almost equally amazing. Just one other player since 1900, besides the Bambino, walked that many times in a 200-hit season. And that was Ruth's tag-team partner, Lou Gehrig (130 in 1936, then 127 the next year). And that's it. The only NL players since 1900 who ever topped 105 walks in a 200-hit season: Todd Helton (111 in 2003) and Stan Musial (107 in 1949). Un-be-friggin'-lievable.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/blog/_/name/stark_jayson/id/8059738/joey-votto-literally-having-babe-ruth-type-season