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AOC Slams Olympics for Suspension of Sprinter, Richardson

AOC Slams Olympics for Suspension of Sprinter, Richardson

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@no1marauder said
It was legal where she smoked it.
So? It’s legal to use steroids in most places.
Bloody banned from using them in professional sports though.

Wasn’t there a Dutch draughts champion who got banned for smoking dope a few decades ago?

Drinking vodka is legal. You can’t do it whilst racing your Ford Fiesta up and down the bloody motorway.

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@shavixmir said
So? It’s legal to use steroids in most places.
Bloody banned from using them in professional sports though.

Wasn’t there a Dutch draughts champion who got banned for smoking dope a few decades ago?

Drinking vodka is legal. You can’t do it whilst racing your Ford Fiesta up and down the bloody motorway.
Steroids are performance enhancing drugs. Marijuana isn't and she wasn't high when she was running the race.

The rule is a travesty and Richardson's banning a grave injustice. And the US Team piling on another punishment is ridiculous.

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@no1marauder said
Steroids are performance enhancing drugs. Marijuana isn't and she wasn't high when she was running the race.

The rule is a travesty and Richardson's banning a grave injustice. And the US Team piling on another punishment is ridiculous.
Marijuana relieves pain.
So by taking it, you can (theoretically) go further with less pain.

In most sports it is listed as a banned substance. Now, I ain’t gonna say it should be. I don’t have an opinion about that.

But being banned for smoking marijuana is not racist. Or anti-hippie. Or anti-Amsterdamish.

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@shavixmir said
Marijuana relieves pain.
So by taking it, you can (theoretically) go further with less pain.

In most sports it is listed as a banned substance. Now, I ain’t gonna say it should be. I don’t have an opinion about that.

But being banned for smoking marijuana is not racist. Or anti-hippie. Or anti-Amsterdamish.
Are you denying that Marijuana laws in the US were passed for racist reasons and are enforced in a racially biased manner?

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@no1marauder said
Are you denying that Marijuana laws in the US were passed for racist reasons and are enforced in a racially biased manner?
you cant function without racism can you?

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@no1marauder said
It was legal where she smoked it.
well good…when they start having the olympics “where she smoked it” she will be good to go.

But no…the olympic rules apply EVERYWHERE.

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@no1marauder said
Steroids are performance enhancing drugs. Marijuana isn't and she wasn't high when she was running the race.

The rule is a travesty and Richardson's banning a grave injustice. And the US Team piling on another punishment is ridiculous.
If the Olympics wants their athletes to be marijuana free because it feel doesn't want to encourage drug use then there is a legitimate purpose for their rule. The rule is clear. It was violated. The punishment should certainly be enforced and the fact that the drug may be legal in a certain state (but not necessarily legal in the country in which the state is located) is completely irrelevant.

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@no1marauder said
Are you denying that Marijuana laws in the US were passed for racist reasons and are enforced in a racially biased manner?
Yes.

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@quackquack said
If the Olympics wants their athletes to be marijuana free because it feel doesn't want to encourage drug use then there is a legitimate purpose for their rule. The rule is clear. It was violated. The punishment should certainly be enforced and the fact that the drug may be legal in a certain state (but not necessarily legal in the country in which the state is located) is completely irrelevant.
No that isn't a "legitimate purpose".

The Olympics is a sports competition, not a public scolding organization.

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@no1marauder said
No that isn't a "legitimate purpose".

The Olympics is a sports competition, not a public scolding organization.
As usual you are being hypocritical. You have no problem with organizations supporting causes you support even if it has nothing to do with their mission. For example you encourage Universities to support offensive admission policies to promote crap like diversity when their goal is merely to educate and should take those with the best credentials.
Here the Olympic decided that, at least to some, their athletes are role models and that they want to them not to be encaging in drug use. Ms. Richardson, knowingly chose not to follow the rules and got caught. It makes sense the Olympics enforces its rule and finds someone who is free of drugs,.

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@quackquack said
As usual you are being hypocritical. You have no problem with organizations supporting causes you support even if it has nothing to do with their mission. For example you encourage Universities to support offensive admission policies to promote crap like diversity when their goal is merely to educate and should take those with the best credentials.
Here the Olympic d ...[text shortened]... got caught. It makes sense the Olympics enforces its rule and finds someone who is free of drugs,.
You have a strange definition of the word "hypocrite".

Having a diverse student body aids the educational experience: "Ultimately, studies show that diversity in education, particularly on college campuses, improve the “intellectual engagement, self-motivation, citizenship, and cultural engagement, and academic skills like critical thinking, problem-solving, and writing – for students of all races. Interacting with diverse peers outside a classroom setting directly benefits students, making them better scholars, thinkers, and citizens.”

https://everfi.com/blog/colleges-universities/top-5-ways-students-benefit-from-diversity-on-campus/

By contrast the arbitrary and capricious rule against Marijuana in the Olympics gives no benefit to the athletes. And the Olympics outmoded ideas about what traits are desirable for athletes outside of the competition are foolish moralizing.

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@shavixmir said
Yes.
I linked to this article already:

"My book discusses how U.S. government officials first painted cannabis as an insidious substance flowing across the border like immigrants from Mexico. Next, the government described cannabis as a drug for the inner city and for Blacks, while also lying about it, leading to murder, rape, and insanity. Next, political opponents of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan designed and enforced laws to target a variety of groups across America.

All along, one consistent target for the nation’s cannabis laws were communities of color. Despite cannabis usage rates between whites and non-whites being similar, Black Americans are arrested for cannabis offenses at a rate of nearly 4:1, compared to whites. And in a nation with nearly 700,000 cannabis-related arrests each year (a number that was over 800,000 a few years ago), these policies affect an enormous number of Americans."

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2020/06/23/marijuanas-racist-history-shows-the-need-for-comprehensive-drug-reform/

Live and learn, Shav.

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@no1marauder said
You have a strange definition of the word "hypocrite".

Having a diverse student body aids the educational experience: "Ultimately, studies show that diversity in education, particularly on college campuses, improve the “intellectual engagement, self-motivation, citizenship, and cultural engagement, and academic skills like critical thinking, problem-solving, and writin ...[text shortened]... deas about what traits are desirable for athletes outside of the competition are foolish moralizing.
Arbitrary racial preferences in colleges for groups who underachieve in high school is discriminatory and should be banned immediately. Universities are clearly using irrelevant criteria when determining who has the best credentials to go to college. The Olympics similarly decided that it had a broader mission that just staging sporting events and part of that was to not give its platform to drug users. Since drug use is a huge world wide problem as you (somewhat wrongfully) think discrimination in education is a problem this, based on your logic should be 100% justifiable. The only difference in the policies is that you personally get pleasure when colleges stomp on the absolute right of the majority to be evaluated based on their credentials and not irrelevant factors such as race but you don't like when black sprinters who fail drug tests are told there will be consequences for their transgressions.

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@quackquack said
Arbitrary racial preferences in colleges for groups who underachieve in high school is discriminatory and should be banned immediately. Universities are clearly using irrelevant criteria when determining who has the best credentials to go to college. The Olympics similarly decided that it had a broader mission that just staging sporting events and part of that was to not ...[text shortened]... en black sprinters who fail drug tests are told there will be consequences for their transgressions.
Universities, unlike ignorant internet posters like yourself, surely know the advantages that diversity grants their students and surely know that societal obstacles including systemic racism warp the gaining of "credentials" (which should not be confused with "ability" ). They are a bit more of experts in this field than you are.

By contrast, Olympic officials have zero expertise in what is right or wrong for human beings to do.

Marijuana use is not a "world wide problem". You've watched Reefer Madness too many times. Substances like alcohol and tobacco are far more of a health problem, yet the Olympics doesn't ban athletes for using them. That is "hypocritical" and based on outmoded personal moral values that have no place in sports.

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