Fascists on the streets of England

@the-grifter said
this is the reason for the riots.

three English children knifed to death by someone not from England.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fx-xlfvqkI

So are you saying, then, that the riots in the US during the Summer of 2020 following the murder of George Floyd at the hands of the police were okay, and understandable, and even excusable?

Because everyone knows what the "reason" for the UK riots was, and your video link imbues your post with a certain right-wing wink and nod that would give any KKK goon a giddy little boner under the white sheet.

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That's what I thought.

Thanks for the confirmation of where you stand: in a puddle of fascist piss.

@Soothfast said
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From the article at https://www.dw.com/en/germany-violent-crime-reaches-15-year-high-report/a-68758122:

[quote]The number of suspects arrested rose by 7.3% to 2.246 million and 41.3% of them did not have a German passport.

Among the people without German nationality who were charged, 402,514 were described as refugees, asylum seekers and those who entered the co ...[text shortened]... y irreversible demographic trends. Same for Japan, and same for a lot of other developed countries.

Thanks for your response. Let me do a bit more research before I reply. For now, I am doubtful that the German interior ministry classifies all those who are illegal immigrants, as criminals in that report. They must have committed some other criminal act.

@Rajk999 said
Thanks for your response. Let me do a bit more research before I reply. For now, I am doubtful that the German interior ministry classifies all those who are illegal immigrants, as criminals in that report. They must have committed some other criminal act.

The statistics cited at the link I provided are for arrests. An arrest means to be detained by authorities, which can occur not only if one commits a crime, but also for suspicion of having committed a crime. Authorized entry and stay are crimes that leave one subject to arrest.

@Soothfast said
The statistics cited at the link I provided are for arrests. An arrest means to be detained by authorities, which can occur not only if one commits a crime, but also for suspicion of having committed a crime. Authorized entry and stay are crimes that leave one subject to arrest.

For this discussion, we are only interested in violent crimes. Data that includes immigration violations are irrelevant. So what information is available out there on that. Here is one and it appears that in the area or violent crimes immigrants outnumber nationals by a wide margin.

The numbers of German crime suspects rose by 4.6% and the numbers of non-German crime suspects went up by 22.6%. Within this "non-German" category, the police say that 310,062 were migrants. They also add that the numbers of migrant crime suspects rose by 35% compared to the previous year. This includes violations of immigration law, that obviously can't be committed by Germans. If we don't count those violations, the number of migrant crime suspects rose by 11.9%
https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/51931/germany-crime-statistics-and-migration

In Denmark and Sweden, immigrants are twice as likely to commit violent crime as the native populations. The pattern becomes even starker with certain types of crime: in Sweden, from 2013-17, immigrants were three times more likely likely to be registered as a suspect for assault than the native population – which grows to four times for robbery, and five times for rape.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/16/europes-migrant-crime-wave-is-coming-to-britain/

I also posted this earlier:

@Rajk999 said
For this discussion, we are only interested in violent crimes. Data that includes immigration violations are irrelevant. So what information is available out there on that. Here is one and it appears that in the area or violent crimes immigrants outnumber nationals by a wide margin.

[i]The numbers of German crime suspects rose by 4.6% and the numbers of non-German crime ...[text shortened]... o.uk/news/2024/05/16/europes-migrant-crime-wave-is-coming-to-britain/

I also posted this earlier:

Given the incredibly low crime rates associated with, for instance, native Swedes living in Sweden, I'm not sure how hyperventilatory one should get about immigrants who are, say, "three times more likely to be registered as a suspect for assault than the native population." That might just make them about half as violent as the average American, for all I know. These numbers lack that kind of context.

In the face of adversity when integrating new people into a society, you right-wing types really give up easily, and start falling all over your fainting couches (as soon as JD Vance is done with them, anyway). Yes, immigrants can be difficult to assimilate. They're out of their element, unfamiliar with the terrain, culture, laws, language, and traditions. They will get into trouble, maybe. But whatever flames you're trying to fan here, I can't see any alternatives.

Europe isn't making babies, so it needs to take in immigrants. It is doing so. It is a win-win proposition, and it is precisely the same dynamic that the US benefited immensely from in, especially, the first 150 years of its existence. And yeah, throughout those 150 years, and on into modern times, every kind of immigrant from every kind of place has been subjected to the hatred and violence of reactionary fanatics who saw them as a sign of the end of civilization. Same stale old song. You never get tired of it?

@Rajk999 said
For this discussion, we are only interested in violent crimes. Data that includes immigration violations are irrelevant. So what information is available out there on that. Here is one and it appears that in the area or violent crimes immigrants outnumber nationals by a wide margin.

[i]The numbers of German crime suspects rose by 4.6% and the numbers of non-German crime ...[text shortened]... o.uk/news/2024/05/16/europes-migrant-crime-wave-is-coming-to-britain/

I also posted this earlier:

Here is some data on the homicide rate of different countries:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

I mentioned Sweden in my last post, so I'll mention that the intentional homicide rate of that country is just 1.1 per 100,000. As for the US, the rate is 6.383. So, the average American is almost 6 times more violent than the average Swede, measured by cold-blooded murders. This means that yes, the average American is about twice as violent as the average immigrant in Sweden, if we take homicides to be a kind of proxy index for all violent crimes. The off-the-cuff estimate I made in my previous post happens, amazingly, to be nearly exactly right.

So, all this hoopla about immigrant violence compared to native rates of violence is not so much a commentary on the violence of immigrants, but rather the lack of violence of natives in many European Union nations. And in the final analysis, the logical conclusion is that Sweden should seal the border to Americans who, after all, are rampaging volcanoes of constant violence.

@the-grifter removed their quoted post

No, I most certainly am not a sassanach.

@the-grifter removed their quoted post

He was born in Wales.

You racist cuck.

@shavixmir said
Ricky jones?

Are you going to pretend you haven’t heard about Labour Councillor Ricky Jones who led a so-called anti fascist protest in London (there were no “right wing fascist thugs” demonstrating) and using a megaphone called for “every one of them should have their throats cut” … is this your position in this? He was roundly cheered and applauded by hundreds of people including an Amnesty International representative who was standing right next to him.

Maybe it your position is as it’s been buried by the mainstream media.

He was arrested by the Met Police on suspicion (suspicion lol) of inciting murder; 24 hours later the reason for arrest was mysteriously downgraded “inciting violent disorder. He wasn’t “fast tracked” he wasn’t immediately jailed, just released to appear on the 7th September.

So answer me this: how is it a man who post of Facebook inciting violence gets fast tracked and an immediate 20 months in jail but this Labour hate-monger inciting mass murder doesn’t ?

https://fb.watch/tWLPpznKzX/?

PS sorry I can’t seem to find the video of him inciting mass murder on the Guardian or BBC or Sky or Channel 4 or ITV news websites. No wonder you haven’t heard of it.

Here’s an alternative news channel discussing it as it’s been largely buried elsewhere, but don’t worry Labour are calling for all these “fake news” channels to be shut down.

YouTube

Two Tier justice ???

@divegeester said
Are you going to pretend you haven’t heard about Labour Councillor Ricky Jones who led a so-called anti fascist protest in London (there were no “right wing fascist thugs” demonstrating) and using a megaphone called for “every one of them should have their throats cut” … is this your position in this? He was roundly cheered and applauded by hundreds of people including a ...[text shortened]... r Sky or Channel 4 or ITV news websites. No wonder you haven’t heard of it.

Two Tier justice ???

Nope. Never heard of him.

@shavixmir said
Nope. Never heard of him.

Of course you haven’t; doesn’t fit your narrative does it.

Are you going to watch the clips I’ve enclosed?

@divegeester said
Of course you haven’t; doesn’t fit your narrative does it.

Are you going to watch the clips I’ve enclosed?

Nope. Not at the moment.
If I remember, I’ll look at them later on.

Politicians should not be calling for throats to be slit.

@shavixmir said
Nope. Not at the moment.
If I remember, I’ll look at them later on.

Politicians should not be calling for throats to be slit.

“If you remember”

Not important enough for you to remember, is it.

Ok I’ll check in with you later when you have had more than the few minutes required to bother to look.