Fascists on the streets of England

@yo-its-me said
Before musk you mean?
No, I hadnt.
I don't read the daily mail- maybe it was in there?

Then I suggest you enlighten and inform yourself by reading a wider range of news media (not necessarily the Mail) than you seem to be limiting yourself to.

Have you heard about a guy called Ricky Jones standing in a protest with a megaphone calling for his protesting opponents to “ALL have their throats cut”?

@divegeester said
On child benefit.

If you can’t afford to have a third child, then the sensible thing to do is to not have a third child.

it's not child benefit that's capped at two children. It's the Universal Credit child element. UC is means tested, and parents on it are economically encouraged to not have more that 2 children. If only all parents could predict the future, they're all being encouraged to know, should something happen (like their husband leaves, for example) that, if they one day need income based benefit, they'd be wise to only have two children.

Say your brother's had four children with his wife. All great, both working. Then he gets ill and can't work, that's OK, he's paid NI and he gets New Style ESA and she keeps working. He's looking after the kids while she's working. But he starts needing care. So she gives up work and looks after him. They claim benefits, carers allowance for her. It's not enough, they've got kids, so they claim Universal Credit too.
But, oh dear, they've got 4 kids, not 2. Suddenly their kids are growing up in poverty. Not their fault. Not your brother's fault. Not his wife's. Why can't we expect the benefit system pick up the cost of raising these children?

@divegeester said
Then I suggest you enlighten and inform yourself by reading a wider range of news media (not necessarily the Mail) than you seem to be limiting yourself to.

Have you heard about a guy called Ricky Jones standing in a protest with a megaphone calling for his protesting opponents to “ALL have their throats cut”?

Sounds awful.
Can't say I'm interested, in one off things.
Is this really an issue?
Do you have any statistics like the child povety ones I gave you?

@yo-its-me said
Why can't we expect the benefit system pick up the cost of raising these children?

Primarily because the Labour Party, who you voted for to deliver CHANGE, have decided not to prioritise it.

Voter regret yet?

Or is my fault, or still the Tory’s fault, or someone else’s fault?

@divegeester said
Do you agree with ALL of the Green Party’s policies and vision for the UK?

No. But on the whole I think they're the best option for our country.
Do you agree with everything the (Conservatives? I don't know where you vote) say?

@divegeester said
Primarily because the Labour Party, who you voted for to deliver CHANGE, have decided not to prioritise it.

Voter regret yet?

Or is my fault, or still the Tory’s fault, or someone else’s fault?

?
I voted green.
Like always.
I was disappointed that Labour aren't reversing the two children limit.
But I wasn't surprised or anything.
Be glad that it doesn't affect you, I'm glad for you too.

@yo-its-me said
Sounds awful.
Can't say I'm interested, in one off things.
Is this really an issue?
Do you have any statistics like the child povety ones I gave you?

How convenient for your mindset.
Let just sweep that under the carpet then shall we. I mean after all this is a thread about “fascists on the streets of England” but you don’t want to talk about it. You’re just upset because you can’t get your third child benefit package.


Anyway, back to you intellectual honesty… are you still claiming that other than Musk’s tweet, you haven’t heard of “two tier policing” “two tier justice?

Yes or No?

@yo-its-me said
?
I voted green.
Like always.
I was disappointed that Labour aren't reversing the two children limit.
But I wasn't surprised or anything.
Be glad that it doesn't affect you, I'm glad for you too.

Did the Green Party, who you voted for, have “lifting the child benefit cap” in their manifesto?

@yo-its-me said
No. But on the whole I think they're the best option for our country.
Do you agree with everything the (Conservatives? I don't know where you vote) say?

“On the whole” what was it the Green Party had in their manifesto which made you think they are best for the country?

@divegeester said
How convenient for your mindset.
Let just sweep that under the carpet then shall we. I mean after all this is a thread about “fascists on the streets of England” but you don’t want to talk about it. You’re just upset because you can’t get your third child benefit package.


Anyway, back to you intellectual honesty… are you still claiming that other than Musk’s tweet, you haven’t heard of “two tier policing” “two tier justice?

Yes or No?

I thought better of you Dive then this kind of debate tactic.
Do you have any examples of Musks frase being true?

@yo-its-me said
Be glad that it doesn't affect you, I'm glad for you too.

Are you “glad for me”, really?

@yo-its-me said
I thought better of you Dive then this kind of debate tactic.
Do you have any examples of Musks frase being true?

What debate tactic?

I’m asking you a direct question about your honesty in claiming you hadn’t heard of “two tier policing” before Musk’s tweet.

You continual avoidance of the question is interesting as it casts a light on your posting here.

@divegeester said
“On the whole” what was it the Green Party had in their manifesto which made you think they are best for the country?

You want me to tell you what the Greens policy is?
I've be over this before.
I don't desire to repeat myself
Especially when you're not getting into the subject.

Anyways, it's Saturday and I have children. So catch you later alligator!

@yo-its-me said
Do you have any examples of Musks frase being true?

Yea lots. I’ve just given you a clue to one, but you said you’re not interested.

Now you’re asking for other examples, how odd.

@yo-its-me said
You want me to tell you what the Greens policy is?
I've be over this before.
I don't desire to repeat myself
Especially when you're not getting into the subject.

Anyways, it's Saturday and I have children. So catch you later alligator!

Did the Green Party have the lifting of the two child benefit cap in their manifesto, yes or no?