Originally posted by zeeblebotBecause you falsely claimed that I was giving figures at the high end.
why should i click on a link that includes the clause "I can't confidently estimate ... but as a guess ...."?
It must suck to realise how bad the situation was even using more conservative figures !!!
Originally posted by STANGhttp://www.transparency.org/cpi/2004/cpi2004.en.html#cpi2004
Perceived corruption in government - from higher to lower
United States
Ireland
Belgium
Germany
Hong Kong
Austria
United Kingdom
Canada
Luxembourg
Switzerland
Australia
Norway
Netherlands
Sweden
I assume that you're taking your information from this site, and putting things out of context, ignoring such corrupt countries as Haiti, Indonesia and Pakistan.
You're proving the phrase, Figures can't lie but liars can figure.
Grow up.
Originally posted by DOlivier2004No but I was making a comparison between:
http://www.transparency.org/cpi/2004/cpi2004.en.html#cpi2004
I assume that you're taking your information from this site, and putting things out of context, ignoring such corrupt countries as Haiti, Indonesia and Pakistan.
You're proving the phrase, Figures can't lie but liars can figure.
Grow up.
United States
Ireland
Belgium
Germany
Hong Kong
Austria
United Kingdom
Canada
Luxembourg
Switzerland
Australia
Norway
Netherlands
Sweden
Looks like you need to be the one that grows up.
Originally posted by STANGYou've posted that list so that the casual reader can draw the conclusion that the US is the most corrupt country in the world. Clearly, it's not (17th out of 145 countries). You've listed the countries above it from Transparency International. If you bunch those countries together as a bloc as part of the developed world, then the trend becomes clear. Saying the US is more corrupt than all those other countries is like trying to determine the slowest runner out of the 2004 100m finals in the Olympics: guess what, no matter who wins they are all bloody fast, faster than the rest of the world by many miles.
No but I was making a comparison between:
United States
Ireland
Belgium
Germany
Hong Kong
Austria
United Kingdom
Canada
Luxembourg
Switzerland
Australia
Norway
Netherlands
Sweden
Looks like you need to be the one that grows up.
Plus, with your history of denigrating the US at every turn and every post and every stat that you can get your hands, it stands to reason that you have a small bias when you compile these stats and make these lists.
I stand by my post.
Originally posted by garyminford2 recs from me.
Amazing that you can tell any politician to 'kiss our asses and EARN our vote' and yet so many of you voted for Bush!
He has quadrupled your national debt, brought in a series of tax cuts that benefited the average american by $100 a year, but the average cabinet minister by $800,000 a year.
What a way to show he cares!
He is an appalling exam ...[text shortened]... selves so short like this?
You deserve more. So do we, from the leading nation on our planet.
Bush is the modern day alchemist. Capable of turning Gold into Lead.
It is not just enough to do well when you are given great tools, it
is expected you will achieve excellence, anything short is a failure.