God bless America !!!

Originally posted by newdad27
those where his words, they are not suspects, the are illegal combatants. my bad.

They will remain suspects until they have been through a fair an open court process.

If the US could prove they are illegal combatants I think the US would have done by now.

Originally posted by invigorate
They will remain suspects until they have been through a fair an open court process.

If the US could prove they are illegal combatants I think the US would have done by now.

lmao; they were picked up on the freaking battlefield. We know they are illegal combatants, you don't then take these terrorist and hold a trial for all of them. Do you live in Oz?

Originally posted by newdad27
lmao; they were picked up on the freaking battlefield. We know they are illegal combatants, you don't then take these terrorist and hold a trial for all of them. Do you live in Oz?

No I live in the UK.

This battle field you refer to is Afghanistan. The worlds poorest country, which was crushed by the worlds richest country because 19 terrorists (most of whom were not Afghani) committed a dreadful act of terrorism.

America has subsequently ruined the lives of many thousands of innocent people in the region. I'm sure this "battlefield" was just ordinary people protecting their way of life. Maybe some men they questioned Americas right to be there and have landed themselves 4 years in camp x-ray.

America is a land of opportunity. It is not the only attractive option for economic migration. You obviously believe the current administration is enhancing America, I take a different view.

But as I've said before either geo-politically America is either very bad at PR or America wants to be viewed as a pre-emptive agressor so the rest of the world quiver.

The strongest bot at school was never the brightest.

Originally posted by invigorate
No I live in the UK.

This battle field you refer to is Afghanistan. The worlds poorest country, which was crushed by the worlds richest country because 19 terrorists (most of whom were not Afghani) committed a dreadful act of terrorism.

America has subsequently ruined the lives of many thousands of innocent people in the region. I'm sure this "bat ...[text shortened]... ressor so the rest of the world quiver.

The strongest bot at school was never the brightest.

well you cant pre-empt when you were attacked and afghanistan is where the training of these terrorist took place. Even the left wing anti war portion of our goverment agree invading afghanistan was correct, so again you are wrong.
There are no ordinary people protecting their way of life in the places these combatants were captured. You should stop making things up and actually do some research, instead of believing everything you hear; like anti american propaganda spit out by the bbc. You should be glad we are standing up to this jihad of world wide terror. This is WWIII, and when they show up at your door step and behead your family I think your point of view will change.

Originally posted by newdad27
well you cant pre-empt when you were attacked and afghanistan is where the training of these terrorist took place. Even the left wing anti war portion of our goverment agree invading afghanistan was correct, so again you are wrong.
There are no ordinary people protecting their way of life in the places these combatants were captured. You should stop ma ...[text shortened]... en they show up at your door step and behead your family I think your point of view will change.

Yes I believe the BBC gives balanced reporting. I have watched American news channels too.

I was in favour of the destruction of the terror camps. I was in favour of the removal of the taliban.

I'm not in favour of keeping prisoners, on an island far from home, without trial.

Not only because I believe this inhumane but because I believe it will inspire more jihadists to fight the west.

If your blood thirsty enough to want world war three then illegally starting wars in a part of the world you have no right to be is a good way of going about it.

While I agree there are a small number of extremist muslims who want to end our way of life. I firmly believe that number will remain small if the West acts responsibly in Iraq, Palestine and the way it treats its enemy prisoners.

Originally posted by newdad27
No offense but this is one of the worst posts I've ever read.

a. usa will spend over 368 billion in poverty entitlements in 2006, is that not enough? Some people will not educate themselves no matter what and you can’t make them. Some people will remain addicts no matter what, there will always be the poor, but in America ANYONE who wants to make a l ...[text shortened]... how these places offer a greater quality of life. There is a reason people choose to come here.

Well put, you get a rec.....😉

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
A friendly fvck you on this fine Friday.

You'd probably like to, but Newdad doesn't sound gay; therefore you'll have to find a street fag, preferably one with siphyilis of the rectum, probably not a hard thing to do in Jo-Burgh....have fun....🙄

Originally posted by invigorate
No I live in the UK.

This battle field you refer to is Afghanistan. The worlds poorest country, which was crushed by the worlds richest country because 19 terrorists (most of whom were not Afghani) committed a dreadful act of terrorism.

America has subsequently ruined the lives of many thousands of innocent people in the region. I'm sure this "bat ...[text shortened]... ressor so the rest of the world quiver.

The strongest bot at school was never the brightest.

You have no clue what is happening in Afghanistan now compared to when the Taliban ruled with your obviously ignorant post about the invasion of Afghanistan, which, incidentally was Osama bin Laden's base of operations....GET A CLUE!!! The Afghans are HAPPY the way things are going NOW that the U.S. has freed them....prove otherwise or know WTF you are talking about before you make stupid remarks about "America crushing the poorest nation because of 19 Saudis)...Oh, and the Taliban didn't "ruin" countless lives with their pre-historic ruling methods???😲 🙄🙄🙄

Originally posted by chancremechanic
You have no clue what is happening in Afghanistan now compared to when the Taliban ruled with your obviously ignorant post about the invasion of Afghanistan, which, incidentally was Osama bin Laden's base of operations....GET A CLUE!!! The Afghans are HAPPY the way things are going NOW that the U.S. has freed them....prove otherwise or know WTF you ...[text shortened]... the Taliban didn't "ruin" countless lives with their pre-historic ruling methods???😲 🙄🙄🙄

Sorry CM I did n't mean to mis-lead you. As you will see from my later post I supported the actions in Afghanistan. I support the crushing of the Taliban. I fully agree with you that the Taliban ruined thousands of lives. the Taliban abused the most basic human rights.

I still maintain that alot of innocent Afghans got killed, injured and arrested in the force of the US overthrow. However I will concede that to do a job properly this might have to happen.

Not every Afghan was a baddie. Not everyone held in Guantanamo Bay is/was a danger to the US security. The people who are being held deserve a fair trial. After four years there many of these men are being denied their basic human right to a fair trial.

Originally posted by invigorate
Sorry CM I did n't mean to mis-lead you. As you will see from my later post I supported the actions in Afghanistan. I support the crushing of the Taliban. I fully agree with you that the Taliban ruined thousands of lives. the Taliban abused the most basic human rights.

I still maintain that alot of innocent Afghans got killed, injured and arrested in ...[text shortened]... er four years there many of these men are being denied their basic human right to a fair trial.

Ok, sorry if I was a little rude to you.....we understand each other then. The only thing I don't understand is what type of trial do you want for these terrorists (not soldiers) that were captured on the battlefield firing at and trying to kill Americans in the defense of the Taliban. I don't want my hard-earned tax dollars paying lawyers to set these creeps free to kill another day. Besides, Guantanamo Bay has such nice weather (about like Phoenix, AZ in July with some humidity), some of the best snorkeling/diving, and the Navy elisted club serves the coldest beer in the Weat Indies...and Tuesday night is ladie's night....burkhas optional....what more could a taliban warrior ask for?

Originally posted by newdad27
....instead of believing everything you hear; like anti american propaganda spit out by the bbc...

You obviously know bugger-all about the BBC.
Or the locals who watch it, who btw are more cynical regarding politics and propaganda than anywhere else in the world.

Originally posted by STANG


Soft drink consumption in litres / year / person USA 216 Ireland 126 Canada 119 Australia 100

Forget about all of the above nonsense and debate. I think the most important point is above.

In your faces Canada and Australia! 😛

Go on you boys in green- second place is right after first! (That more than makes up for the poor football this year, if you ask me!) 😀

Originally posted by sasquatch672
Well, I think if I really gave it some thought, America wouldn't be in my top ten either. Here's my top ten, so particular order:

1. Australia (I hear your women are hot and you Aussie lads don't know how to treat them, so they flock to foreigners and Americans in particular.)

2. Belize (Hot women, lots of bikinis, nude beaches)

3. St. T ...[text shortened]... lots of bikinis, nude beaches)

10. The Seychelles (Hot women, lots of bikinis, nude beaches)

You obviously didn't get to Andros....