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Vaccinated should be tested for SARS2 or lose rights

Vaccinated should be tested for SARS2 or lose rights

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@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
You really LOVE negative attention.

There is PLENTY of evidence smoking tobacco causes cancer, the tobacco companies know that in 1960.

You want to weaponize ANYTHING in your sick agenda thinking somehow your god king will be reinstated and that traitor Biden will be out on his ass and in prison.
How many people have died because your government did not outlaw tobacco?

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@eladar said
How many people have died because your government did not outlaw tobacco?
Good point.
If they really cared about human life...........

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@eladar said
How many people have died because your government did not outlaw tobacco?
Too many. But only because the government erred (or was bought by BIG capital) in one case is no reason to fail in the next....

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@ponderable said
Too many. But only because the government erred (or was bought by BIG capital) in one case is no reason to fail in the next....
My government was bought by big pharma.

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@ponderable said
Too many. But only because the government erred (or was bought by BIG capital) in one case is no reason to fail in the next....
Only because establishment is establishment. Sonhouse's gods are establishment.

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@Eladar
Which you want to turn into a banana republic replete with huge military parades and the end of democracy in the USA.
Now to be called the UUSA, UNunited States of America

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have devised a set of rules pertaining to the classification of infectious disease and death. These rules simultaneously inflate the number of covid cases in the unvaccinated and allow hospitals to classify dead vaccinated people as “unvaccinated” deaths.

https://www.cracknewz.com/2021/09/cdc-allows-hospitals-to-classify-dead.html

People who die within 2 weeks after getting the vaccine are counted as unvaccinated deaths. The data is corrupted by the CDC.

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Delta Variant: Natural Immunity 700% Greater Protection Than Shot, Data from Israeli Govt. Shows

https://newsrescue.com/delta-variant-natural-immunity-700-greater-protection-than-shot-data-from-israeli-govt-shows/

CDC Director: Vaccines No Longer Prevent You From Spreading COVID

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/06/cdc_director_vaccines_no_longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#!

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@Eladar
Ah. MY government. So with that you admit you hate government and ONLY want to cause chaos by supporting the TREASON perpetrated on Jan 6.

It WAS treason BTW, it was also insurrection. A failed coup attempt and we now know there were members of congress and senate involved in the beginnings of this coup attempt.

Also it is very clear just how close we came to a REAL coup.

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@mchill
Right, metal head thinking he maybe got something wrong.

Hint: He (in his own so called mind) that he is ALWAYS right and the further right links he can find the better, that way in his fantasy world he THINKS he has proven ALL of us wrong and he is ALWAYS right.

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@sonhouse said
@mchill
Right, metal head thinking he maybe got something wrong.

Hint: He (in his own so called mind) that he is ALWAYS right and the further right links he can find the better, that way in his fantasy world he THINKS he has proven ALL of us wrong and he is ALWAYS right.
From the CDC link below:

'For the purpose of this surveillance, a vaccine breakthrough infection is defined as the detection of SARS-CoV-2 RNA or antigen in a respiratory specimen collected from a person ≥14 days after they have completed all recommended doses of a U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-authorized COVID-19 vaccine."

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

Are you in denial of what the CDC admits on their own website? Yes or no?
Do you think the CDC is a right wing website?

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The vaccinated are asymptomatic carriers of the SARS2 virus. They should be tested for SARS2 before being allowed to travel.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/06/cdc_director_vaccines_no_longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#!

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A new study from the Lancet confirms it.

https://rumble.com/voihdw-vaxxed-just-as-likely-to-spread-covid-as-unvaxxed.html

The debate is over. Vaxxed Just As Likely To Spread Covid As Unvaxxed

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@metal-brain said
The vaccinated should be subjected to regular testing before being allowed into public gatherings. They are super spreaders. Only then should they receive a pass to gather in enclosed public places.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/06/cdc_director_vaccines_no_longer_prevent_you_from_spreading_covid.html#
I also think that the vaccinated should not receive the advantage of visiting public gatherings without testing and, as it sometimes happens, even without masks. Now, it is already pretty well known that the vaccine does not 100% secure against being infected; vaccinated people are often carrying the virus. Even worse: the vaccine helps to not to fall seriously ill from the coronavirus; therefore, vaccinated but infected people often mistakenly think they are not sick, while the infected unvaccinated people feel sick and remain home.

In Estonia, right now, the vaccination passport gave the right to visit public places without making tests and sometimes even without wearing the mask, while the recently made negative test result was not considered as proof that one is not infected yet. In sum, this policy seems to be designed to help selling the vaccines but not defending the people against the virus.

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@eintaluj said
I also think that the vaccinated should not receive the advantage of visiting public gatherings without testing and, as it sometimes happens, even without masks. Now, it is already pretty well known that the vaccine does not 100% secure against being infected; vaccinated people are often carrying the virus. Even worse: the vaccine helps to not to fall seriously ill from the ...[text shortened]... cy seems to be designed to help selling the vaccines but not defending the people against the virus.
I agree.

Some vaccinated people have mild symptoms. Jen Psaki just recently tested positive with mild symptoms. That makes her a breakthrough case, but since she isn't hospitalized the CDC does not count her as a breakthrough case. Only deaths and hospitalizations are counted as breakthrough cases, but an unvaccinated person gets counted no matter what.

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