Take a look at this map,. it shows all the states and which ones don't have voter ID.
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The red-and-blue election state-by-state map on Thursday's "Carl Higbie FRONTLINE" noted nearly all of the states that chose Vice President Kamala Harris were ones that have no voter ID on the books.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/voter-id-elon-musk/2024/11/10/id/1187471/
the cheating goes on.
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@Earl-of-Trumps saidIt’s astonishing that the US hasn’t federally mandated voter ID; what’s stopping someone turning up twice?
Take a look at this map,. it shows all the states and which ones don't have voter ID.
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The red-and-blue election state-by-state map on Thursday's "Carl Higbie FRONTLINE" noted nearly all of the states that chose Vice President Kamala Harris were ones that have no voter ID on the books.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/voter-id-elon-musk/2024/11/10/id/1187471/
the cheating goes on.
@divegeester saidIm not sure it is as simple as the op suggests. Maybe someone actually in one of these states can help. However, I think people need to be registered to vote, which involves some proof of nationality, citizenship, address, etc. Then when election time arrives a voting ballot paper is sent out. This is presented in order to vote. Maybe some states require photo ID along with the ballot paper, and some just accept the ballot paper with no ID. Someone will need to have 2 ballot papers to vote twice.
It’s astonishing that the US hasn’t federally mandated voter ID; what’s stopping someone turning up twice?
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@Earl-of-Trumps saidA lie. New York requires you to sign a ledger (well it's on a computer screen now) and that signature has to match yours on file.
Take a look at this map,. it shows all the states and which ones don't have voter ID.
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The red-and-blue election state-by-state map on Thursday's "Carl Higbie FRONTLINE" noted nearly all of the states that chose Vice President Kamala Harris were ones that have no voter ID on the books.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/voter-id-elon-musk/2024/11/10/id/1187471/
the cheating goes on.
That's showing proof of ID even if right wing clowns like yourself say differently.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidYeah no body can think of a way to falsify ID docs so it’s foolproof, oh no hang on.
Take a look at this map,. it shows all the states and which ones don't have voter ID.
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The red-and-blue election state-by-state map on Thursday's "Carl Higbie FRONTLINE" noted nearly all of the states that chose Vice President Kamala Harris were ones that have no voter ID on the books.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/voter-id-elon-musk/2024/11/10/id/1187471/
the cheating goes on.
Very suspect that low propensity voters like young white men, Latino men and young black men magically turned up for the republicans and trump 🤔
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@divegeester saidI'll ask @no1marauder to check me on this, but I think this is right:
It’s astonishing that the US hasn’t federally mandated voter ID; what’s stopping someone turning up twice?
Voting is a right, not a privilege. So is unreasonable search. In the US you can't take away someone's rights NOT to be searched (e.g. show me your papers) or their right to vote without probable cause. Could be different in Europe - probably is.
When a guy shows up to vote and gives his name and address and that corresponds to a name and address on the voting rolls, there is no probable cause that he is not who he just said he is. But his 'application' to vote (not the vote itself) is recorded in a database, so they know - then or later - if someone with that name and address ever tried to vote twice.
So the answer is: the Bill of Rights guarantees that you can exercise your right to vote, once, without hindrance whatsoever.
It's similar to driving a car or carrying a gun or walking around while black. Nobody can just 'demand' that you drop everything to produce ID to prove that you can peacefully go on doing what you are doing (e.g. SHOW US YOUR PAPERS, JA?) We ain't that Nazi. Yet. There has to be probable cause.
That's freedom.
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@divegeester saidAs for federally mandated ID, have you heard the old saying about gummint taking away your rights and selling them back to ya? 😀
It’s astonishing that the US hasn’t federally mandated voter ID; what’s stopping someone turning up twice?
If gummint wants to require voter ID to exercise our INALIENABLE rights (see what I did there? Americans have 'inalienable rights.' Europeans may not), then gummint has to make such ID available to every citizen, free of charge. And with a process so simple that no one's rights are denied.
You won't find the GOP stumping for that one - but that would be closer to fair.
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@spruce112358 saidUnfortunately, the SCOTUS feels differently and has upheld photo ID requirements.https://www.law.columbia.edu/news/archive/supreme-court-ruling-indiana-voter-id-case
I'll ask @no1marauder to check me on this, but I think this is right:
Voting is a right, not a privilege. So is unreasonable search. In the US you can't take away someone's rights NOT to be searched (e.g. show me your papers) or their right to vote without probable cause. Could be different in Europe - probably is.
When a guy shows up to vote and gives his name and ...[text shortened]... HOW US YOUR PAPERS, JA?) We ain't that Nazi. Yet. There has to be probable cause.
That's freedom.
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@no1marauder saidWell, yeah. I have little confidence in SCOTUS on much of anything these days. 😆
Unfortunately, the SCOTUS feels differently and has upheld photo ID requirements.https://www.law.columbia.edu/news/archive/supreme-court-ruling-indiana-voter-id-case
Was there anything in the decision preventing the requirement of a US passport. Birth certificates have no photo (obviously) and so a passport is the only common way to prove citizenship, with a photo, if you were born here.
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@spruce112358 saidScurry the voting process is not akin to what the Nazis did, don’t be so silly.
I'll ask @no1marauder to check me on this, but I think this is right:
Voting is a right, not a privilege. So is unreasonable search. In the US you can't take away someone's rights NOT to be searched (e.g. show me your papers) or their right to vote without probable cause. Could be different in Europe - probably is.
When a guy shows up to vote and gives his name and ...[text shortened]... HOW US YOUR PAPERS, JA?) We ain't that Nazi. Yet. There has to be probable cause.
That's freedom.
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@spruce112358 saidYou’re being ridiculous.
As for federally mandated ID, have you heard the old saying about gummint taking away your rights and selling them back to ya? 😀
If gummint wants to require voter ID to exercise our INALIENABLE rights (see what I did there? Americans have 'inalienable rights.' Europeans may not), then gummint has to make such ID available to every citizen, free of charge. And with a ...[text shortened]... ghts are denied.
You won't find the GOP stumping for that one - but that would be closer to fair.
You need ID for pretty much everything in life.
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@Earl-of-Trumps saidthe cheating goes on.
Take a look at this map,. it shows all the states and which ones don't have voter ID.
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The red-and-blue election state-by-state map on Thursday's "Carl Higbie FRONTLINE" noted nearly all of the states that chose Vice President Kamala Harris were ones that have no voter ID on the books.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/voter-id-elon-musk/2024/11/10/id/1187471/
the cheating goes on.
I'm not convinced there is cheating going on but would not be opposed to requiring ID to cast a ballot.
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@mchill saidIF the government is going to force you to produce a photo ID to exercise your right to vote, it should be required to give one to every citizen free of charge.
the cheating goes on.
I'm not convinced there is cheating going on but would not be opposed to requiring ID to cast a ballot.
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@divegeester saidThink about how many times per day you present your ID to do something. 🙂
You’re being ridiculous.
You need ID for pretty much everything in life.
Of course, England may be different.
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@no1marauder saidEXACTLY!
IF the government is going to force you to produce a photo ID to exercise your right to vote, it should be required to give one to every citizen free of charge.