Spirituality
23 Apr 11
26 Apr 11
Originally posted by Proper KnobPaul was one of the most vehemently forceful speakers about Jesus in the decades after Christ's death and resurrection. He described himself as "being zealous for God".
I thought, according to you, a Christian was someone who followed the teachings of Christ?! What has Paul got to do with any of this?
I think maybe Robbie fancies himself a modern-day Paul.
Paul was responsible for a rather large portion of the New Testament. He had much to say on what exactly "being a Christian" meant.
26 Apr 11
Originally posted by Proper KnobPaul set up and established the principles for the smooth running of the congregations.
I thought, according to you, a Christian was someone who followed the teachings of Christ?! What has Paul got to do with any of this?
He was a zealous minister and an exemplary Christian. There is much to be learned
from his life course.
26 Apr 11
Originally posted by Suzianneall Christians would do well to imitate Pauls example, but that of course takes self
Paul was one of the most vehemently forceful speakers about Jesus in the decades after Christ's death and resurrection. He described himself as "being zealous for God".
I think maybe Robbie fancies himself a modern-day Paul.
Paul was responsible for a rather large portion of the New Testament. He had much to say on what exactly "being a Christian" meant.
sacrifice, that is putting others ahead of ourselves.
26 Apr 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYes, much. Some of those things to be learned, he never actually learned himself, and we can learn from that example too.
Paul set up and established the principles for the smooth running of the congregations.
He was a zealous minister and an exemplary Christian. There is much to be learned
from his life course.
What I mean to say was that Paul could be a bit of a bastard (see his statements regarding women. or those regarding Jewish law at the time) when he thought the situation merited it, and this made him a few enemies along the way.
But this is also what I meant when I said that I think Robbie fancies himself a modern-day Paul. I wouldn't completely disagree.
26 Apr 11
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieClearly you seem to think that you are the only one in these forums who does these things. I say, just as clearly, that you are wrong.
all Christians would do well to imitate Pauls example, but that of course takes self
sacrifice, that is putting others ahead of ourselves.
26 Apr 11
Originally posted by SuzianneI did not say that, indeed, i have asked numerous times for evidence of any other
Clearly you seem to think that you are the only one in these forums who does these things. I say, just as clearly, that you are wrong.
organisation or individuals who are similarly engaged, have i not?
26 Apr 11
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut he's not Jesus though is he.
Paul set up and established the principles for the smooth running of the congregations.
He was a zealous minister and an exemplary Christian. There is much to be learned
from his life course.
The religion is called Christianity, not Paulianity.
26 Apr 11
Originally posted by Proper Knobyes its true but Christ left few detailed principles for the running of the congregation, his
But he's not Jesus though is he.
The religion is called Christianity, not Paulianity.
work was the ministry, teaching others, congregations needed to be organised and
thats where Paul comes in, he establishes principles. As a student he was second to
none and his knowledge of scriptural principles and the application is sublime.
26 Apr 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo the thinking in unity concept has nothing to do with Jesus.
yes its true but Christ left few detailed principles for the running of the congregation, his
work was the ministry, teaching others, congregations needed to be organised and
thats where Paul comes in, he establishes principles. As a student he was second to
none and his knowledge of scriptural principles and the application is sublime.
How vewy, vewy, intwesting...........
26 Apr 11
Originally posted by Proper Knobwell i dont know about that, Christ also emphasised unity.
So the thinking in unity concept has nothing to do with Jesus.
How vewy, vewy, intwesting...........
(John 17:20-23) . . .“I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning
those putting faith in me through their word; in order that they may all be one, just as
you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in
union with us, in order that the world may believe that you sent me forth. Also, I have
given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as
we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be
perfected into one,. . .
tis it not the same pwinciple?
26 Apr 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYes, basically, Jesus was not really big on details, I don't think. He was the idea guy.
yes its true but Christ left few detailed principles for the running of the congregation, his
work was the ministry, teaching others, congregations needed to be organised and
thats where Paul comes in, he establishes principles. As a student he was second to
none and his knowledge of scriptural principles and the application is sublime.
Paul was the detail man, the loose-ends guy. 🙂
27 Apr 11
Originally posted by Proper KnobWow Borg they are 😉
You always seem to be critical of independent Christians like divegeester. I was just making the observation that you sit at the extreme opposite end of the Christian spectrum.
Your doctrine has been decided by your organisations Governing Body over the years, you have had no say in this whatsoever. You just follow. Your organistation tries to discour ...[text shortened]... i]The Watchtower[/i], August 1, 2001, page 14.
The orders are given and the flock bleets.
Manny
27 Apr 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt says nothing about letting the leaders of an organisation dictate what people can think or read.
well i dont know about that, Christ also emphasised unity.
(John 17:20-23) . . .“I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning
those putting faith in me through their word; in order that they may all be one, just as
you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in
union with us, in order ...[text shortened]... with me, in order that they may be
perfected into one,. . .
tis it not the same pwinciple?