Being righteous, doing God's righteousness works.

@kellyjay said
Nothing odd about it, read the title, doing the work of God requires God. We are a tainted race as you agreed earlier, we are all quite capable of doing horrible things, and we do them at different levels of the day every day, and we are quite comfortable in this too. No one is perfect, which is the issue, what I don't think you get is how bad, bad is, or how good real good ...[text shortened]... e sin we see. You cannot understand what a flaw is until you understand what is correct looks like.

How do you understand James 5:16 saying "the prayer of a righteous person has great power."

Who are these righteous people referred to?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
How do you understand James 5:16 saying "the prayer of a righteous person has great power."

Who are these righteous people referred to?

Someone in right standing with God.

God is all about righteousness.

Isaiah 11

There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse, and a branch from his roots shall bear fruit. And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord. And his delight shall be in the fear of the Lord. He shall not judge by what his eyes see, or decide disputes by what his ears hear, but with righteousness he shall judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the earth; and he shall strike the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips he shall kill the wicked. Righteousness shall be the belt of his waist, and faithfulness the belt of his loins.

@rajk999 said
I think he is a pastor himself and he takes comments about pastors being crooked personally.

I am not a pastor, again you simply cannot help yourself, so who are these people you speak of, what church are you referring to name it, or are these just more of your imaginationary figments you have wandering around in your head?

@kellyjay said
I am not a pastor, again you simply cannot help yourself, so who are these people you speak of, what church are you referring to name it, or are these just more of your imaginationary figments you have wandering around in your head?

Whatever. I think we can conclude this thread with the statement that your church doctrine which you peddle here is contrary to Christ. You are therefore a false teacher.

@rajk999 said
You live under a rock. Christianity is full of child molesting priests, greedy pastors who live in opulence off the church, adulterers, and now they are also homosexuals.

Here is what the Christian church supposed to be

[i]And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. And fear came upon every soul: an ...[text shortened]... g simply, sharing their wealth among each other. Instead now Christianity is a billion $$ business.

The world is full of sinners nowhere will you find it otherwise. Sinners will gravitate to where they can make full use of their positions to set themselves up to satisfy their lustful desires. Law enforcement, politics, religion, childcare, and education all have people in them who do evil things because the human race is broken and full of sin.

You realize that it is Christ who heals and saves sinners so only sinners are in the Christian church, we come to Christ to be redeemed, forgiven, and sanctified, and in that mix are those who are not there to be redeemed, forgiven, sanctified, they they are there for power, self-righteousness, lustful desires, or to hang around religion close enough to feel like it makes their evil okay, but not close enough know the Lord.

Concerning your quoted scripture, I agree, that we should be doing all of that and that church at that time, but it ended up being driven apart by the hate of those who wanted nothing to do with Jesus Christ. You also since you quoted Acts should look at what was said to fill the numbers of that church. You should read the whole book it would do you good.

Acts 2
Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.

Peter did not give them a list of good works, he pointed them to Jesus Christ.

@rajk999 said
Whatever. I think we can conclude this thread with the statement that your church doctrine which you peddle here is contrary to Christ. You are therefore a false teacher.

All you do is say what you think, even when you have to twist the scripture to make it mean what you think it should be saying.

@kellyjay said
All you do is say what you think, even when you have to twist the scripture to make it mean what you think it should be saying.

There are about 5 other posters in this thread and they can all see and agree with what Jesus preached or did not preach.

Jesus never said to people:
- they are filthy sinners
- that their good works do not count

Jesus said to go and do good works and keep the commandments

The problem you are not quoting Jesus Christ. It could be that you do not agree with Jesus at all.

@kellyjay said
Someone in right standing with God.

God is all about righteousness.

Isaiah 11

There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse, and a branch from his roots shall bear fruit. And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord. And his delig ...[text shortened]... l the wicked. Righteousness shall be the belt of his waist, and faithfulness the belt of his loins.

There is no such expression in the bible as 'right standing' or 'good standing', or 'personal relationship' or 'intimate relationship' .... with God. These are church expressions used to replace what the blble says.

The bible speaks of keeping the commandments, but because the church does not want to preach to people to keep the commandments, they use other expressions which are meant to deceive people.

Keeping the commandments is what makes a man righteous. Jesus in Matt 25 called those who fed the hungry, clothed the naked, righteous and welcomed them into the Kingdom of God.

@kellyjay said
Someone in right standing with God.

God is all about righteousness.

So, if righteous people do exist, not all good works are like rags, right?

@rajk999 said
There are about 5 other posters in this thread and they can all see and agree with what Jesus preached or did not preach.

Jesus never said to people:
- they are filthy sinners
- that their good works do not count

Jesus said to go and do good works and keep the commandments

The problem you are not quoting Jesus Christ. It could be that you do not agree with Jesus at all.

Oh wow, 5 whole people who you think agree with you, it's scripture you need to be lining up with.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
So, if righteous people do exist, not all good works are like rags, right?

Romans 3:21-23
English Standard Version
But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

@kellyjay said
Oh wow, 5 whole people who you think agree with you, it's scripture you need to be lining up with.

I am lining up with what Jesus preached. You are just regurgitating your church rubbish, and it really stinks.

@rajk999 said
There is no such expression in the bible as 'right standing' or 'good standing', or 'personal relationship' or 'intimate relationship' .... with God. These are church expressions used to replace what the blble says.

The bible speaks of keeping the commandments, but because the church does not want to preach to people to keep the commandments, they use other expressions ...[text shortened]... ed those who fed the hungry, clothed the naked, righteous and welcomed them into the Kingdom of God.

Why are you using scripture to justify yourself and condemn others, do you worship it?

@kellyjay said
Romans 3:21-23
English Standard Version
But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

And these professed believers [who you claim to be righteous] pass the beaten up man, and turn the other way. These are like your church people. Jesus said these are going to be cast out. Your doctrine again in contrary to Christ.

The man who does the right thing, keeps the commandments, is the one right with God.

Your hypocrite professed faithful, is not right with God and will be booted out of the Kingdom of God.

You are preaching rubbish.

@kellyjay said
Why are you using scripture to justify yourself and condemn others, do you worship it?

Why are you using scripture to justify yourself and condemn others, do you worship it?