Boasting of the Holy Spirit

@kellyjay said
Why didn't you answer my other question? Will people who do the good works you have talked about be accepted by God even if they deny Jesus, ignore Jesus, have nothing to do with Jesus? If good works are as you put it the gospel of Jesus Christ are these works all that God requires accordingly?

Jesus said that those who keep the commandments will gt eternal life in the Kingdom of God. This was stated over and over and over, in words and in stories and in parables. If you missed these teachings then you are just blind. As for who does good works, that is for Jesus Christ to judge. However the bible takes a different view of these things you mentioned: .. deny Jesus, ignore Jesus, have nothing to do with Jesus..

You see these things as professions with the mouth. Typical Christianity's focus is professing belief with the mouth, claiming to have a personal relationship with Jesus, talking about Jesus, professing love for Jesus and such things which are just mere words.

Jesus Christ condemned these professions of belief with the mouth, and never said anything about any relationship, personal, intimate or otherwise, and condemned all mouth worship. The Apostles if you read carefully said exactly the same things about mouth only faith. DOING is what pleases God, not hearing and talking.

This principle of DOING is what Jesus said he will use to judge... those who DO get eternal life. Talkers only are condemned. Therefore those who deny Christ, ignore Christ and have nothing to do with Christ are described here in plain language :

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. (Matthew 25:41-46 KJV)

Did you read what Jesus said ? Those who did not feed Him, clothe Him, visit Him, are the ones who deny, ignore and had nothing to do with Him

@rajk999 said
Jesus said that those who keep the commandments will gt eternal life in the Kingdom of God. This was stated over and over and over, in words and in stories and in parables. If you missed these teachings then you are just blind. As for who does good works, that is for Jesus Christ to judge. However the bible takes a different view of these things you mentioned: [i] .. d ...[text shortened]... t feed Him, clothe Him, visit Him, are the ones who deny, ignore and had nothing to do with Him [/b]

You didn’t answer the question I asked, which is, are good works only what God requires? Can you do good works then it doesn’t matter if you deny Jesus, find Him unimportant, ignore Him in this life?

@kellyjay said
You didn’t answer the question I asked, which is, are good works only what God requires? Can you do good works then it doesn’t matter if you deny Jesus, find Him unimportant, ignore Him in this life?

I let Jesus answer you but since you are a church Christian you cannot see what Jesus is saying because, it appears that your mind is full of mouth professions of faith and that has made your heart far from Christ. I will let Jesus answer again, and if you ask again I will do the same thing [there are dozens of these statements by Christ] :

And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him, And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee. Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise. (Luke 10:30-37 KJV)

The priest and Levite had faith
The Good Samaritan had compassion.
Go and do likewise. ... like the Good Samaritan

Ask me again what Jesus wants.

@rajk999 said
I let Jesus answer you but since you are a church Christian you cannot see what Jesus is saying because, it appears that your heart is far from Christ. I will let Jesus answer again, and if you ask again I will do the same thing [there are dozens of these statements by Christ] :

[i]And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among ...[text shortened]... evite had faith
The Good Samaritan had compassion.
Go and do likewise. ... like the Good Samaritan

Answer the question I am asking you, I have seen you quote scriptures but what I am asking is very specific with respect to can any who has good works but doesn’t acknowledge Jesus Christ be acceptable to God? Those who refuse Him, deny Him, ignore Him?

@kellyjay said
Answer the question I am asking you, I have seen you quote scriptures but what I am asking is very specific with respect to can any who has good works but doesn’t acknowledge Jesus Christ be acceptable to God? Those who refuse Him, deny Him, ignore Him?

I will let James answer...

Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. (James 2:25-26 KJV)

Did Rahab acknowledge Jesus Christ? Was Rahab acceptable to God?

Ask me the same question again.

@rajk999 said
I will let James answer...

Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. (James 2:25-26 KJV)

Did Rahab acknowledge Jesus Christ? Was Rahab acceptable to God?

Ask me the same question again.

I want your answer; you quote scripture that has nothing to do with what I asked you directly.

@kellyjay said
I want your answer; you quote scripture that has nothing to do with what I asked you directly.

The scripture contains the answer to your questions.
I asked you questions which you ignored... here it is

Q : Did Rahab acknowledge Jesus Christ? Was Rahab acceptable to God?

A : No. Yes

Ask again.

@rajk999 said
The scripture contains the answer to your questions.
I asked you questions which you ignored... here it is

Q : Did Rahab acknowledge Jesus Christ? Was Rahab acceptable to God?

A : No. Yes

Ask again.

Do you realize she was years before Jesus?
Answer the question, yes, no!
Can someone who denies Christ, ignores Christ, has nothing to do with Christ be accepted by God only because they did good works?

@rajk999 said
The scripture contains the answer to your questions.
I asked you questions which you ignored... here it is

Q : Did Rahab acknowledge Jesus Christ? Was Rahab acceptable to God?

A : No. Yes

Ask again.

Rahab existed long before Jesus Christ’s earthly ministry. How could she acknowledge Jesus Christ? Rahab lived in Old Testament times - centuries before Jesus’ birth to the Virgin Mary.

@pb1022 said
Rahab existed long before Jesus Christ’s earthly ministry. How could she acknowledge Jesus Christ? Rahab lived in Old Testament times - centuries before Jesus’ birth to the Virgin Mary.

He is just throwing stuff out there to avoid directly answering the question.

@pb1022 said
Rahab existed long before Jesus Christ’s earthly ministry. How could she acknowledge Jesus Christ? Rahab lived in Old Testament times - centuries before Jesus’ birth to the Virgin Mary.

So ? Are you saying that every individual on the planet must accept Christ from the time he was born even though they knew nothing of that event?

@kellyjay said
He is just throwing stuff out there to avoid directly answering the question.

The bible is answering the question even though it is a stupid question.

@rajk999 said
A whole bunch of questions in there some of which I can see are just rhetorical and others are personal. Notice I do not ask you questions like that. My posts are short and concise, I resist the temptation to ask personal questions which have no place in an online discussion and I ask relevant simple questions ... so try again if you like.

There were no rhetorical or personal questions in that post. I suspect you simply couldn’t answer them. All the questions (and there weren’t many - maybe three or four) were based on doctrine.

@kellyjay said
Do you realize she was years before Jesus?
Answer the question, yes, no!
Can someone who denies Christ, ignores Christ, has nothing to do with Christ be accepted by God only because they did good works?

Jesus answered that already in Matt 25. Clearly you disagree with Christ and that seems to be your problem.

Your church doctrine has fooled you into thinking that a profession of faith with your mouth shows that you accept Christ. The truth is such a profession of faith is useless and it shows nothing of the sort.

When you ignore the teachings of Christ which you are doing right now, this shows that it is YOU who ... denies Christ, ignores Christ, has nothing to do with Christ .. You are such a person.

@pb1022 said
There were no rhetorical or personal questions in that post. I suspect you simply couldn’t answer them. All the questions (and there weren’t many - maybe three or four) were based on doctrine.

Well, the questions were stupid and childish to be honest. If there is a gaping hole in what I believe and I quote Jesus Christ for you then you are another one who ... denies Christ, ignores Christ, has nothing to do with Christ ..

The doctrine of Christ is pretty simple. Your questions are designed to ridicule the Gospel of Christ. So we will part company on that matter.