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Originally posted by dj2becker
So you are not a qualified psychologist?
What makes you think I am?

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
So you are 'now' saying the environment in the cult 'was' one of psychological abuse, and that this is obvious? - So what the heck have you been blabbering about for the last 20 pages?! 🙄

Your position that you were on the receiving end of psychological abuse, whereby you were brainwashed and mentally controlled (by your own description) but th ...[text shortened]... cing such abuse and yet simultaneously claim you didn't suffer it.

Like I said, not credible.
According to your own made up definition of 'psychological abuse', maybe. You have yet to give me a definition that matches my experience.

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Originally posted by FMF
The "abuse" was described in the 220 words of yours that we are discussing.

We are not discussing any things that "were covered up".

We are discussing things that you have openly revealed.
According to your made up definition of 'psychological abuse', maybe.

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Originally posted by FMF
What makes you think I am?
I don't.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
I don't.
So what is the relevance of your question to our discussion?

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One ought to take a look at the previous page or two to see what still-dangling point or unanswered-question dj2becker is seeking to deflect from with this new tack.

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Originally posted by FMF
So what is the relevance of your question to our discussion?
You seemed to be making claims that only a clinical psychologist should be making so thanks for clarifying that you aren't one.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
You seemed to be making claims that only a psychologist should be making so thanks for clarifying that you aren't one.
Are you suggesting that you have told a qualified psychologist what you have told us and she or he told you that you weren't subjected to psychological abuse?

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Originally posted by dj2becker
So are you qualified and experienced in the field of psychological abuse?
What about my experience in the field of psychological abuse? You asked me about it. I answered. You ignored it.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
Anyone who questioned the rules of this church were excommunicated and everyone in the church believed they were going to hell and shunned them like lepers. I was born into the church and for 24 years I believed that everything they taught was the absolute truth. Parents would disown their children if they decided to leave." And I asked you repeatedly about it but you just blanked it out. Here is the question you dodged:
At what point in your childhood were you made aware that these kinds of psychological threats were hanging over you if you did not submit to the regime of deprivation and brainwashing?

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Originally posted by FMF
Are you suggesting that you have told a qualified psychologist what you have told us and she or he told you that you weren't subjected to psychological abuse?
No if you were a clinical psychologist I would probably take your diagnosis more seriously.

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Originally posted by FMF
What about my experience in the field of psychological abuse? You asked me about it. I answered. You ignored it.
Well I know many nurses that are not qualified doctors that have been working in the medical field for 20 years. If I had a medical problem I think I would still prefer to see a qualified doctor.

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Originally posted by dj2becker
No if you were a clinical psychologist I would probably take your diagnosis more seriously.
And what has any clinical psychologist told you about what you were the victim of?

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Originally posted by dj2becker
Well I know many nurses that are not qualified doctors that have been working in the medical field for 20 years. If I had a medical problem I think I would still prefer to see a qualified doctor.
I didn't ask you about nurses. I asked you about my experience in the field of psychological abuse: Islamic boarding schools and abuse of women, among other things.

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Originally posted by FMF
And what has any clinical psychologist told you about what you were the victim of?
I have never spoken to a clinical psychologist nor have I felt the urge to.

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