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Originally posted by robbie carrobieAnd your version of God would not, according to you, be pleased with the compassion and generosity, the good grace and selflessness that might underpin such "works" carried out by humans for the benefit of fellow humans, if it was done without what you define as "faith"?
It may work in helping the recipient of that work in some way, depending upon the nature of the work or service rendered.
Originally posted by FMFWhether or not God is pleased with it I cannot say, sorry. Its not my version of God, i did not write the Bible., just sayin.
And your version of God would not, according to you, be pleased with the compassion and generosity, the good grace and selflessness that might underpin such "works" carried out by humans for the benefit of fellow humans, if it was done without what you define as "faith"?
26 Nov 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieA couple of posts ago you said "without faith its not possible to please God". And now you "cannot say whether or not God is pleased with it". Which is it to be?
Whether or not God is pleased with it I cannot say, sorry. Its not my version of God, i did not write the Bible., just sayin.
26 Nov 12
Originally posted by FMFI was not referring to faith in conjunction with works, i simply stated that the Bible states that without faith its impossible to please God, whether this is with reference to works I do not know, but you keep on assuming that it is and dig your own hole.
A couple of posts ago you said "without faith its not possible to please God". And now you "cannot say whether or not God is pleased with it". Which is it to be?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut you have clearly contradicted yourself. When it comes to work without faith you say [1] that without faith its not possible to please God, but you also say [2] whether or not God is pleased with it you cannot say. It doesn't add up. Which is to be?
I was not referring to faith in conjunction with works, i simply stated that the Bible states that without faith its impossible to please God, whether this is with reference to works I do not know, but you keep on assuming that it is and dig your own hole.
Originally posted by FMFNo I simply stated that without faith its impossible to please God, i said nothing about
But you have clearly contradicted yourself. When it comes to work without faith you say [1] that without faith its not possible to please God, but you also say [2] whether or not God is pleased with it you cannot say. It doesn't add up. Which is to be?
whether this was in conjunction with works or not, you once again, simply assumed it
because that's what you do. Its not my fault you failed to ascertain what i meant, is it.
But its ok, i have had my fill of you already after three or four posts, goodbye.
don't you just love the ignore button it gets rid of foul and slimy trolls in an instant. All
your posts now come with the reassuring appendage,
CENSORED: This post has been removed to preserve sanity levels,
Ill change your name to something funky as well.
26 Nov 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobie"Slimy trolls"? What are you on about?
No I simply stated that without faith its impossible to please God, i said nothing about
whether this was in conjunction with works or not, you once again, simply assumed it
because that's what you do. Its not my fault you failed to ascertain what i meant, is it.
But its ok, i have had my fill of you already after three or fur posts, goodbye. ...[text shortened]...
don't you just love the ignore button it gets rid of foul and slimy trolls in an instant.
FMF: How about works without faith?
robbie: It may work for the non Christian, but the Bible indicates that without faith its not possible to please God.
FMF: It may "work" in what way?
robbie: It may work in helping the recipient of that work in some way, depending upon the nature of the work or service rendered.
FMF: And your version of God would not, according to you, be pleased with the compassion and generosity, the good grace and selflessness that might underpin such "works" carried out by humans for the benefit of fellow humans, if it was done without what you define as "faith"?
robbie: Whether or not God is pleased with it I cannot say, sorry.
Which is it to be?
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26 Nov 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieCmon RC. I assumed you knew Gods word, maybe I was wrong. We do works because we are obedient to Gods word and love God.
written in your hearts???, it should be self evident through works.
For there is no partiality with God. For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them ) (Romans 2:11-15 NKJV)
Did you catch the written in their hearts part? That's what I was referring to. I will be more direct in future discussions.
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Originally posted by boononAnother mention of 'on their hearts'.
Cmon RC. I assumed you knew Gods word, maybe I was wrong. We do works because we are obedient to Gods word and love God.
For there is no partiality with God. For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, ...[text shortened]... their hearts part? That's what I was referring to. I will be more direct in future discussions.
"For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified. And the Holy Spirit also witnesses to us; for after He had said before, 'This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put nMy laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,' then He adds, 'Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.' Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin. Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way which He consecrated for us, through the veil, that is, His flesh, and having a High Priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful" (Hebrews 10:14-23).
