15 Jun 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseySo you dont like my overall message or certain posts?
We don't need your condescension. You have no clue how open my eyes are, no clue about my faith, my mind, my learning, my education, my understanding, or my fears. When you arrived (apparently after a lengthy hiatus) I replied in a friendly way to a few of your messages. All I got in return was condescension and rebuke. And I see who you are in lock step with here. So yeah. My eyes are wide open. And you can buzz off.
Be specific . I may be wrong about you but if I'm right please stay out of my way unless I adress your post
15 Jun 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyIf they are teaching that our actions do not matter, then yes they are Satan's children.
So I guess based on your hypothetical about Jim, anyone who adheres to the doctrine is a crook. Can we add, "and will burn in hell" to that too? Surprised that wasn't there.
OSAS leads people to believe we can't earn our way to heaven so we are free to sin.
15 Jun 18
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Karoly said: So you dont like my overall message or certain posts?
Be specific . I may be wrong about you but if I'm right please stay out of my way unless I adress your post
I thought you did reply to my post at first, then had to edit it as a general statement. Don't worry, I won't chime in on any of your comments in the future unless addressed directly. Even then I'm likely not to respond.
15 Jun 18
Originally posted by @eladarNo one teaches that our actions don't matter.
If they are teaching that our actions do not matter, then yes they are Satan's children.
OSAS leads people to believe we can't earn our way to heaven so we are free to sin.
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15 Jun 18
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Originally posted by @eladarNo one I have ever seen talk seriously about the Gospel here has said actions don't matter.
Some do.
Maybe some were not as incensed against all things "liberal" or "left wing" to your liking. But I can't think of anyone saying that a Christian's actions didn't matter.
15 Jun 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyYou preach that actions do not matter for eternal life.
No one teaches that our actions don't matter.
You have eternal life already.
Actions only count for rewards.
Why do you not try to be clear in what you believe
15 Jun 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseySo you don't like my overall message then?Karoly said: So you dont like my overall message or certain posts?
Be specific . I may be wrong about you but if I'm right please stay out of my way unless I adress your post
I thought you did reply to my post at first, then had to edit it as a general statement. Don't worry, I won't chime in on any of your comments in the future unless addressed directly. Even then I'm likely not to respond.
15 Jun 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseyPreachers of doctrines which water down the teachings of Christ are crooked preachers yes.
So I guess based on your hypothetical about Jim, anyone who adheres to the doctrine is a crook. Can we add, "and will burn in hell" to that too? Surprised that wasn't there.
Jesus, Paul and the Apostles said that to enter the Kingdom of God, the Christian must have both faith and works.
Did you read Matt 25 about the sheep and the goats? The sheep did good works and they entered the Kingdom of God. The goats did no good works and were cast out.
15 Jun 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelplease produce scripture to back up your assertions
Christ is happy you have faith in eternity , now he would appreciate you opening your eyes so you can cast aside your faith.
Open your mind and learn. You can learn things in absolutely anything . Jesus wants you to lose your fear(s) by educating yourself about the universe understanding despite the way people are in this world, this is largely a pl ...[text shortened]... that you or anyone is alive in this era. I'm sure you've sufferd and learnt like the rest of us
15 Jun 18
Originally posted by @rajk999Actions do matter for eternal life. God's actions.
You preach that actions do not matter for eternal life.
You have eternal life already.
Actions only count for rewards.
Why do you not try to be clear in what you believe
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world...
15 Jun 18
Originally posted by @sonshipYou have never heard people preach salvation by grace and that our actions are work?
No one I have ever seen talk seriously about the Gospel here has said actions don't matter.
Maybe some were not as incensed against all things "liberal" or "left wing" to your liking. But I can't think of anyone saying that a Christian's actions didn't matter.
15 Jun 18
Originally posted by @rajk999The goats did no good works. Name any Christian here who does no good works. You've said we're all goats. So. Prove it.
Preachers of doctrines which water down the teachings of Christ are crooked preachers yes.
Jesus, Paul and the Apostles said that to enter the Kingdom of God, the Christian must have both faith and works.
Did you read Matt 25 about the sheep and the goats? The sheep did good works and they entered the Kingdom of God. The goats did no good works and were cast out.
15 Jun 18
Originally posted by @tom-wolseySo YOUR actions do not matter for eternal life.
Actions do matter for eternal life. God's actions.
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as [b]he chose us in him before the foundation of the world...[/b]
Is that the correct thing now?