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Originally posted by sonshipCome on sonship, human morality can stand on its own two feet without the need for a God. To suggest that knowledge of what is 'wrong and sadistic' is stolen from a theistic world view is a nonsense.
On what basis is it wrong to be cruel and sadistic ?
Is it just your personal preference one should not be?
Sounds like you have to steal concepts from a theistic worldview in order to use it to condemn God.
You have to sit on His lap in order to be able to reach His face to slap it.
Originally posted by 667joeOnly God is perfect, if he made us to be perfect we would be Gods, and would not need him anymore. Something doesn't have to be perfectly designed to exhibit qualities of intelligent design. Is a Mercedes perfect? No.Yet you would be a fool to assume it came about by random chance. If you can assume that an imperfect Mercedes was designed by an intelligent designer why can't you assume the same for an imperfect human?
If man designs something, I would not expect it to be perfect. On the other hand, iuf god designs something, I would expect it to be perfect. Obviously, the design of the prostate is not perfect, therefore, I think god had nothing to do with it!
22 Oct 16
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeBut if there is no God then you can't be sure that something is truly wrong now can you?
Come on sonship, human morality can stand on its own two feet without the need for a God. To suggest that knowledge of what is 'wrong and sadistic' is stolen from a theistic world view is a nonsense.
Originally posted by sonshipYou would think that a "higher priority interrupt" would be able to prevent the eternal torturing of billions of people.
When I was a computer programming student (back when dinosaurs walked the earth), I remember being fascinated by what the IBM operating system MVS could do.
If the operating system detected that something was not going right with some program, it could issue something called [b]a higher priority interrupt. The higher priority interrupt was ...[text shortened]... at something was wrong by means of some higher priority interruption in the normal flow of life?[/b]
Originally posted by 667joeThe bit you are missing, is that God designed men to only live to about 35. Its men meddling with medicine that is to blame!
As the prostate enlarges (which is does in a majority of men),........
If god designed the prostate, his design clearly flunks! (Evolution explains the situation much better than intelligent design!)
I just noticed that the life expectancy in Zambia is now almost 60! When I left there ten years ago it was only 40. My guess is that this is because all the people with AIDS died off.