25 Oct 16
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeA great multitude saved doesn't mean those that were not had numbers in much greater
Ah okay, we're trading biblical quotes:
'The Great Multitude in White Robes' Revelation 7:4-9'
'After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.'
Interpret away sir.
quantities.
Originally posted by KellyJayIf you had been born in Pakistan to Muslim parents, it is almost certain that you would not be a Christian today, and would now (according your current theology) be destined to be tortured in hell for all eternity.
It is who so ever wills, if you will you can turn to Christ the location or history will not stop
anyone who wants Jesus to receive Him.
As you have said before, ignoring this cold, hard reality does not make it less true.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by Rank outsiderIn human terms, you are forgetting who we are talking about too. God controls the universe
If you had been born in Pakistan to Muslim parents, it is almost certain that you would not be a Christian today, and would now (according your current theology) be destined to be tortured in hell for all eternity.
As you have said before, ignoring this cold, hard reality does not make it less true.
every atom in the universe is completely in God's scope of total understanding as well as
we are from the hairs on our head to the desires of our hearts. Nothing is impossible for
God. I can point you to people who were Muslim born and raised in the Middle East who
have become Christians. On top of that you can be born into America and that does not
mean you will automatically become a Christian either surrounded by churches.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by Rank outsiderThis universe was put together by God in 6 days and its fallen, what Jesus said was He is
Not much of a paradise, is it?
building a place for us and He will come back and get us and He has been working on this
place for a few thousand years now. Its written what is coming has not even entered into
the mind of man. So yes I as pointed out to you the grandness of God's grace and mercy
for those that come to Him as He calls us will be so good, and His wrath will be as bad.
Also we will all see things for what they really are and admit Jesus is Lord and every knee
will bow and tongue confess that. When the time comes accounts will be settled once and
for all.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by KellyJayAs I said, it is almost certain you would be a Muslim.
In human terms, you are forgetting who we are talking about too. God controls the universe
every atom in the universe is completely in God's scope of total understanding as well as
we are from the hairs on our head to the desires of our hearts. Nothing is impossible for
God. I can point you to people who were Muslim born and raised in the Middle East who ...[text shortened]... and that does not
mean you will automatically become a Christian either surrounded by churches.
Nothing you said contradicts this, and you have no explanation as to why it is fair to stack the odds of avoiding eternal torture so heavily against someone simply due to the chance of their place of birth.
The fact that you don't acknowledge this obvious truth shows how morally bankrupt your theology is.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by Rank outsiderAre people born Muslim?
As I said, it is almost certain you would be a Muslim.
Nothing you said contradicts this, and you have no explanation as to why it is fair to stack the odds of avoiding eternal torture so heavily against someone simply due to the chance of their place of birth.
The fact that you don't acknowledge this obvious truth shows how morally bankrupt your theology is.
Originally posted by KellyJayGod so loved the world [not Chistians only],
Are people born Muslim?
that he gave his only begotton Son to die [for the world not Christians only]
so that whoever believes in Him [with their heart and not just their mouth]
will not perish but have everlasting life.
Those who live righteously, and follow the commandments of Christ, chief of which is love for fellow man , have God and Christ with them, abiding with them, living with them and guiding them. God / Christ knows these people they will enter the Kingdom of God when the time comes.
Those who claim to follow Christ have no advantage over the rest of the world except for the fact that they are supposed to know the commandments of Christ and should be encouraged to DO it. Many non Christians follow Christ because the laws of Christ are written in the heart of all people, who if guided by their conscience will live righteously.
Evil and sinful people of all religions will be destroyed.
Good and righteous of all religions, will enter the kingdom of God.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by Rajk999Adding to the Word again Rajk999?
God so loved the world [not Chistians only],
that he gave his only begotton Son to die [for the world not Christians only]
so that whoever believes in Him [with their heart and not just their mouth]
will not perish but have everlasting life.
Those who live righteously, and follow the commandments of Christ, chief of which is love for fellow man , have ...[text shortened]... ul people of all religions will be destroyed.
Good and righteous will enter the kingdom of God.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by KellyJayIts the whole story. .. a story a shallow brained person like you cannot grasp because you are too self absorbed with your own lame righteousness and with your own silly doctrine to see Gods plan for the whole world.
Adding to the Word again Rajk999?
God loves the whole world.
God loves righteousness and hates evil.
Righteous people will be rewarded.
Evil people will be punished.
The labels of Christian, Muslim, Hindu etc are all man made and means nothing to God.
The God in which you believe is unfair, selfish and sadistic.
The true God is just, fair and compassionate.
25 Oct 16
Originally posted by Rajk999So apart from Jesus people are good?
Its the whole story. .. a story a shallow brained person like you cannot grasp because you are too self absorbed with your own lame righteousness and with your own silly doctrine to see Gods plan for the whole world.
God loves the whole world.
God loves righteousness and hates evil.
Righteous people will be rewarded.
Evil people will be punished.
...[text shortened]... ch you believe is unfair, selfish and sadistic.
The true God is just, fair and compassionate.