@divegeester saidIf you'll stop saying what you think!!! Deal?
Why don’t you just say what you think … teacher!
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Use the mystery of predestination with faith and thanksgiving.
" Lord Jesus, I want to thank You for predestinating me before the foundation of the world to be before you one day without blemish, without spot, holy, a son of God. Lord Jesus this is more than I could ever think to ask. I want to thank You for your love and Your predestination of my salvation."
Stand upon it.
Thank the Lord for His marking out your destiny to salvation.
Stand upon it believing with thanksgiving.
I bet God will honor that kind of step of faith.
And you will begin to have that unspeakable personal communion with the
predestinating One.
@sonship saidSo do you pray? If so do you ask for forgiveness of your sins you did that day? Do you ask for God to protect you and your family?
Use the mystery of predestination with faith and thanksgiving.
[i] " Lord Jesus, I want to thank You for predestinating me before the foundation of the world to be before you one day without blemish, without spot, holy, a son of God. Lord Jesus this is more than I could ever think to ask. I want to thank You for your love and Your predestination of my salvation." ...[text shortened]... And you will begin to have that unspeakable personal communion with the
predestinating One.
@divegeester saidNote it again. Not gonna happen.
Your dodge is noted. Or I should say your excuse.
However the scriptures I posted on page one remain there for you to address while you attempt to sidestep them.
@galveston75 saidMy post on page one demonstrates that predestination is in fact robustly supported in the bible.
Note it again. Not gonna happen.
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So do you pray? If so do you ask for forgiveness of your sins you did that day? Do you ask for God to protect you and your family?
Yes, of course.
We have the wonderful story of Joseph to see how God's sovereignty transcended all things. What ever happened to Joseph in Genesis only went to God fulfilling His will for him.
Aren't you glad that in the very first book of the Bible, Genesis we have the graphic story of God's providence, predestination, transcendent overseeing of all things to fulfill His plans for Joseph.
Early, early in the divine revelation of the Bible we see the transcendent over time God operating all things beyond our imagination to fulfill His eternal purpose.
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@galveston75 saidIf you’re a poor orphan who’s adopted into a wealthy and loving family, do you stop saying “Thank you” to your new father when he does things for you?
But don't ones who are "saved" still pray and ask for forgiveness of sins that they have committed that day? If they are saved and predestined for salvation, why pray and ask for forgiveness? No need I would think.....
Do you stop saying you’re sorry when you do something wrong?
Do you stop asking him for help when you’re in trouble?
Just because you’re part of the family doesn’t mean you no longer show gratitude and remorse and ask for help.
@chaney3 removed their quoted postGive me this claimed “raft” of scripture about “hell”.
Other than the strange stuff in revelation, I don’t think there is much on “hell”.
Then let’s discuss its merits in terms of being literal, morally and logically comprehensible and in line with the general message of the gospel.
@sonship saidYou have a rather ordinary mind sonship, as evidenced by your constant regurgitation of rote-learned dogma and inability to process dissent, so you appealing to some "authority" or other on these matters of superstition that we are "musing", and then labelling that "authority" as being "minds smarter than anyone here" says more about you being neck-deep in the intellectual quicksand of confirmation bias than it does about the intellects of any of the people here that your "ministry" has you seeking to condescend.
My sincere advice to anyone reading this which has been pondered by minds smarter than anyone musing and contemplating predestination here tonight
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Be pragmatic and USE the mystery of predetination.
" Lord Jesus, I never would have loved you. Lord Jesus I never would have believed in You. I have a cold heart. I have no faith. Lord Jesus I possess no ability in myself alone to believe in You. But Lord Jesus I THANK you for marking out my destiny to love You and receive Your salvation, your sacrtifice for my sins. Thankyou Lord Jesus for Your wonderful predestination."