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12 Oct 19
23 Nov 19
@medullah saidEvangelize is not a word in the bible, and it is an abused word in the Christian community. The last directive of Christ is to preach and convert, yes, but what ezactly is it that needs to be preached to people. The answer is that people must be told to follow His commandments
Faith without deeds is dead
The last directive that Jesus gave his disciples was to go out into the nations and make more disciples - evangelise.
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew 28:18-20 KJV)
Many churches do not do that. They instead preach that mouth professions of faith is all that is required. Nothing else. Jesus said no such thing.
23 Nov 19
Having now read through everything (more than once in some cases) I stand by my decision to post something a bit at a tangent, as although not everyone believes that same thing surely it should be a learning and sharing opportunity, not an arena where one tries to outscore another ? Didn’t Jesus say that people would know his disciples by the mark of love ? There shouldn’t be a need for aggression in this discussion should there ?
23 Nov 19
@medullah saidI understood you. You failed to understand me. The word evangelize means to preach and to convert. That alone does not fulfill the directive from Christ as I have pointed out to you.
@Rajk999
You understood what I was talking about irrespective of the existence or non existence of the term in any given translation of the bible.
23 Nov 19
@rajk999 saidI didn’t say that it did. I merely was trying to point out that preaching and converting others to the faith (is vernacular ok ) was a requirement as I understood it.
I understood you. You failed to understand me. The word evangelize means to preach and to convert. That alone does not fulfill the directive from Christ as I have pointed out to you.
Stop looking for fights and chill out a bit. Im happy to engage with you and listen if you think there is something amiss. So many different denominations and translations can make finding the right path difficult.
23 Nov 19
@medullah saidIf there is bickering then there is no commonality. There is the teachings of Christ and there is Christianity. They are two distinct and separate doctrines. Hence the bickering.
I did I confess to you - I don’t like to see bickering among those who should have a commonality .
23 Nov 19
@medullah saidI have already pointed out to you what is amiss. You should address that if you say you are happy to discuss the issues, but instead, you are the one that is provoking a fight by your empty posts devoid of substance.
I didn’t say that it did. I merely was trying to point out that preaching and converting others to the faith (is vernacular ok ) was a requirement as I understood it.
Stop looking for fights and chill out a bit. Im happy to engage with you and listen if you think there is something amiss. So many different denominations and translations can make finding the right path difficult.
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23 Nov 19
They key to understanding the book of Revlation is the book of Daniel, the first book of the bible to detail the time of the end, but it ISNT the end of the world, it is the end of the wicked system that governs the world.
Actually, the entire Bible is a "key". You know there is much more in Revelation besides the beast. It is afterall mainly a revelation of Christ and His church. Don't you think?
The beast is a part of it. But look at its climax, its consummation, its grand finale. I think that is where to consider what is of the central focus.
The beast goes into the great garbage can of God. And the Bride and the Bridegroom enjoy an eternal married life.
Like on the night of a honeymoon, taking out the garbage is not main thing. One just says to the other "Honey. could you put the garbage out for us? Thanks." . That's all.
I think it is a good idea to read the last two chapters of Revelation and then go back from the beginning. Always remember that everything is for, and headed, and arriving at the climax of those last two chapters - Revelation 21, 22.
@divegeester said@medullah?
I’ve read both.
Oh and by the way....welcome back @Edward-Palamar ... is it?
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23 Nov 19
@sonship saidHi Sonship
@medullah
They key to understanding the book of Revlation is the book of Daniel, the first book of the bible to detail the time of the end, but it ISNT the end of the world, it is the end of the wicked system that governs the world.
Actually, the entire Bible is a "key". You know there is much more in Revelation besides the beast. It is afterall main ...[text shortened]... s for, and headed, and arriving at the climax of those last two chapters - Revelation 21, 22.
The reason that I introduced that part of revelation is because it is now.
I’m very open minded in that I don’t think that one group or denomination has the whole truth. So that seven headed beast is the seven world powers, and it’s interesting because depending on who you speak with (I have a guy from the east in my clan) whether they have an eastern or western perspective, itinerary of the world powers are slightly different.
So the big danger that everyone is facing is the pending issue of the Mark if the beast. It doesn’t matter about anything else if you take it as it looks as though that’s the end of the game.
What do you think, I’d be interested to hear ?
23 Nov 19
@divegeester saidThe guy has a lot of balls showing up here again.
Haha.
We’re all still here Edward.