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@KellyJay
Sorry. I started reading some information because I couldn't recall the source. Then I realized that it would take more time to research.
13 Oct 19
@sonship saidI didn't look it up in the books I have, but did a search, how valid it is I don't know I am now very curious and will start looking into it.
@KellyJay
Sorry. I started reading some information because I couldn't recall the source. Then I realized that it would take more time to research.
Name of the Book: REVELATION
Writer: APOSTLE JOHN
Place Written: PATMOS ISLAND
Writing Completed: 96 C. E.
Name of the Book: 1 JOHN
Writer: APOSTLE JOHN
Place Written: EPHESUS, or near
Writing Completed: 98 C. E.
Name of the Book: 2 JOHN
Writer: APOSTLE JOHN
Place Written: EPHESUS, or near
Writing Completed: 98 C. E.
Name of the Book: 3 JOHN
Writer: APOSTLE JOHN
Place Written: EPHESUS, or near
Writing Completed: 98 C. E.
Name of the Book: JOHN
Writer: APOSTLE JOHN
Place Written: EPHESUS, or near
Writing Completed: 98 C. E.
@kellyjay saidDo you really dismiss the prevailing scholarship that contends that the Book of Revelation was not written by the same author or authors as wrote the material attributed to "John the Apostle"?
I didn't look it up in the books I have, but did a search, how valid it is I don't know I am now very curious and will start looking into it.
Name of the Book: REVELATION
Writer: APOSTLE JOHN
Place Written: PATMOS ISLAND
Writing Completed: 96 C. E.
Name of the Book: 1 JOHN
Writer: APOSTLE JOHN
Place Written: EPHESUS, or near
Writing Completed: 98 C. E.
Name of the ...[text shortened]... f the Book: JOHN
Writer: APOSTLE JOHN
Place Written: EPHESUS, or near
Writing Completed: 98 C. E.
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13 Oct 19
@divegeester
I said I and two other young men read aloud the book of Revelation. It was late in the center of a small town park. What a memory I have of that night.
Dive asks
Why did you do this and what was the outcome?
For the enjoyment of feeding our spiritual hunger we did it.
For the enjoyment of our oneness as seeking Christians we did it.
The result was that we were encouraged, nourished, built up together in our faith. That was a blessing.
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Do you really dismiss the prevailing scholarship that contends that the Book of Revelation was not written by the same author or authors as wrote the material attributed to "John the Apostle"?
"Prevailing scholarship" meaning what you prefer scholars would tell you.
@sonship saidAs I suspected, for self fulfilment.
@divegeester
For the enjoyment of feeding our spiritual hunger we did it.
For the enjoyment of our oneness as seeking Christians we did it.
The result was that we were encouraged, nourished, built up together in our faith. That was a blessing.
Why didn’t you just stay at home wit those young men and read it to each other in private?
13 Oct 19
@sonship saidYou are well within your rights to disagree with the prevailing scholarship if that is what you want to do. So you prefer to think the Book of Revelation was written by the same author or authors as who wrote the material attributed to "John the Apostle", do you?
@FMF
Do you really dismiss the prevailing scholarship that contends that the Book of Revelation was not written by the same author or authors as wrote the material attributed to "John the Apostle"?
"Prevailing scholarship" meaning what you prefer scholars would tell you.
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Why didn’t you just stay at home wit those young men and read it to each other in private?
Meeting at home would be good too.
So would meeting in a park.
Do you desire to drive lovers of Christ out of the public square?
"For where there are two or three gathered into My name, there am I in their midst." (Matt. 18:20)
We like to be with the Lord in any place. Any "where" can be a good place for us to build up one another in love.
You imagine evil motives of three young men finding that we all love Jesus and one of us has a Bible we can share ?
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@FMF
I have no problem at all believing that it was the disciple John who was one of the twelve wrote John and Revelation.
What does it do for you to run after an opinion that different authors wrote the two books or maybe six or seven people wrote them both? What benefit do you derive from assuming that?
@sonship saidIt is relevant to the credibility and veracity of the claims you make and therefore sheds light on the nature of your faith...
What does it do for you to run after an opinion that different authors wrote the two books or maybe six or seven people wrote them both? What benefit do you derive from assuming that?
Is your faith comprised of a whole load of details and explanations, which you have convinced yourself are true ~ but which are not actually true.
It's not so much a "benefit" as a simple upshot of your beliefs being examined?