The Garden of Eden

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Thanks I'll do that, meditation is certainly beneficial, i might even use the time to try to understand why you are unwilling or incapable of rational thought.

Take the time to contemplate why you almost invariably lose your composure when you discuss things with me.

Originally posted by FMF
If you think it "defiles the flesh" that's fine. Does this prohibition that you reckon a God figure has handed to you also applies to working in a coal mine either or wading through a silt laden river or cooking with firewood in a confined space or walking around Jakarta without wearing a mask?

So you reckon the Bible does not permit you to smoke. Good for y ...[text shortened]... sex. Good for you. Your opinion about what you can and cannot do is sovereign in these matters.

sorry you have not answered the question, if you are unwilling to engage in or incapable of rational thought then say so, here it is again,

please tell us in view of the evidence presented above why smoking as you have stated here does not defile the flesh.

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-info/healthyliving/smoking-and-cancer/stats-evidence/

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-info/healthyliving/smoking-and-cancer/stats-evidence/I am trying nothing of the sort, its not an attempt at humour, its an illustration to describe you and people like you who stay afloat with naught but hot air.

You have described it as trying to be "amiable" but it's clear that you are trying really really hard to be funny. Stuff like "slobber" and "drool" and "stalker" and "drugged balloonists" repeated over and over and over and over again, thread after thread after thread, just isn't funny.

Originally posted by FMF
Take the time to contemplate why you almost invariably lose your composure when you discuss things with me.

Thanks when it happens, ill think about it, at present its enough for me to try to understand why you are either unwilling or incapable of rational thought.

Originally posted by FMF
You have described it as trying to be "amiable" but it's clear that you are trying really really hard to be funny. Stuff like "slobber" and "drool" and "stalker" and "drugged balloonists" repeated over and over and over and over again, thread after thread after thread, just isn't funny.

again this is simply an illustration of what its like trying to reason with someone who seems either unwilling or incapable of rational thought, like trying to reason with a brain dead zombie, all you get it slobber and drool, its not an attempt at humour as you have once again falsely asserted. Perhaps if you stopped assuming so much you may be more accurate in your assertions, who can say, either way nothing here you have stated is accurate, its just the usual hot air we are treated to post after post after post after post.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sorry you have not answered the question, if you are unwilling to engage in or incapable of rational thought then say so, here it is again,

please tell us in view of the evidence presented above why smoking as you have stated here does not defile the flesh.

It's my opinion that it is no more "defiling the flesh" than putting alcohol in your stomach or taking paracetamol or breathing the air in a traffic jam. The idea that smoking cigarettes is forbidden by a God figure is ludicrous. If you believe that God has told you not to smoke, and if that is the reason you don't smoke, good for you.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
again this is simply an illustration of what its like trying to reason with someone who seems either unwilling or incapable of rational thought, like trying to reason with a brain dead zombie, all you get it slobber and drool, its not an attempt at humour as you have once again falsely asserted. Perhaps if you stopped assuming so much you may be mor ...[text shortened]... is accurate, its just the usual hot air we are treated to post after post after post after post.

These kinds of posts belong in the Clans Forum, robbie.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Thanks when it happens, ill think about it, at present its enough for me to try to understand why you are either unwilling or incapable of rational thought.

You should ponder why it is your contributions on any given topic so often end up with you simply dishing out personal abuse.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
...its not an attempt at humour as you have once again falsely asserted...

But your insults and abuse MUST be an attempt at humour, robbie ~ what other realistic purpose could they possibly have?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I don't believe a word you say and i don't know why you expect anyone else to, here are the things you cannot bring yourself to answer,

does something need to be explicitly stated in scripture for it to be valid, I demonstrated that it did not refuting your argument against Galveston that his perspective was not explicitly stated in scripture whi ...[text shortened]... t, which were to serve as food for Adam and eve, not literal.

and logic beats you every time.

I've never said the garden of Eden was symbolic, never implied that and in fact I already explained my position on this in the thread. You don't even know what you are debating.

Originally posted by FMF
These kinds of posts belong in the Clans Forum, robbie.

I just had a look in the clans forum and it appears robbies "humour" is not appreciated there either - he gets more flack in there than he does here and more thumbs down than the entire community of 1st century Rome Christians.

Originally posted by divegeester
I've never said the garden of Eden was symbolic, never implied that and in fact I already explained my position on this in the thread. You don't even know what you are debating.

I never said that you did, you also seem incapable of rational thought. What i have actually stated is that you hold that the garden was literal but that the trees in it were not. That is what i have actually said and if you were capable of rational thought you would know that, but you are not. If you cannot even get that right what hope is there for you?

Originally posted by divegeester
I just had a look in the clans forum and it appears robbies "humour" is not appreciated there either - he gets more flack in there than he does here and more thumbs down than the entire community of 1st century Rome Christians.

Well at least its a stab a providing some empirical evidence on your part, a new experience perhaps, who knows where you may go from here, maybe you will learn something? Think of that! you will become less stupid overnight! You may even reach the stage where you manage to employ a real argument! Heck you may even reach the stage where you manage to understand a real argument, think of that! The possibilities.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

I'm well aware of that wiki page having perused over it myself. I'm asking if YOU have any empirical evidence that fits your own definition of what evidence is?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
but you got to admit that doing cardio is pretty mindless, if they put daytime tv on them as well, which they do, its like well brain dead. so they put little games on them.

'Cardio' is any activity which uses the cardiovascular system, or anything which raises your heart rate. Surely you can be a little more imaginative than going to the gym and mimicking a gerbil for an hour?