The gospel

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Haha! No need to @me -- we and all have sprouted and occur within It. 😉

@sonship said

Is Rajk999 actually saying that the Apostle Paul ( persecuted from city to city and latter beheaded by Nero) did not bring the gospel of Jesus Christ to people ?

I said no such thing. The Gospel of Christ, or the Good News of Christ is a specific message about the Kingdom of God, and what is NECESSARY to get eternal life. The message was preached by Christ, in the first 7 books of Matthew and Luke, and then Jesus sent out his disciples to preach that very same message.

Paul preached exactly that, and more than that.

The 'exactly that part' conforms to the Gospel of Christ
The 'more than that part', is additional information which is useful for greater understanding but is not necessary for eternal life

@kellyjay said
Where do you find the scriptural references for what you claim is the gospel of Christ? Paul wrote most of the New Testament you and not he knows!? Lay it out, explain it? What text, be specific!

Been doing that this whole thread and you still cannot read. Go get some help.

@kellyjay said
What he just said isn't exactly true either, since He told the 12 things the masses didn't hear, he explained things to the 12 the masses didn't hear. Jesus called out Paul and told Paul the Lord had a work for Paul to do. That also isn't something the masses experienced either. I'm starting to understand why his definition of the gospel is somewhere in the scriptures, so he doesn't just point to specific text.

You are going insane.

@sonship said
Rajk999 was bothered that I called Kellyjay a "Brother".
Rajk999, took the initiative in the past to declare he was not any spiritual brother of mine. I think he was right.

The day I read the derogatory comments you wrote about the commandments of Christ, which discouraged people from keeping these commandments, I knew you are of Satan and cannot be a brother in Christ. This was about 15 years ago. ... and you only now realising that Im right. Im right about a lot of things and it will take you 15 yrs to see that too.

@rajk999 said
Been doing that this whole thread and you still cannot read. Go get some help.

I know you are still not giving scriptures references for the things you claim are valid outside of vague references to them; my ability to read isn't the issue; it is your ability to give clear, concise proof through text. The only thing you do give scripture text for is something you twist, works, works, works while it is Jesus who saves by God's grace and mercy, a gift of God to the unworthy, us. Even when Jesus' words are quoted to you, you respond in the same manner you do here, attacking the speaker as if that is somehow reasoning in your mind.

@rajk999 said
You are going insane.

Again, not the point you address, just insults, how little of you.

@sonship said
@KellyJay

Rajk999 process is that of many heretics.

1.) Decide what you want to believe is good news.

2.) Find passages which support that and call them the Gospel.

3.) Sections of the New Testament that do not support that only use selectively.

IE. James is good when it says "faith without works is dead" . Otherwis ...[text shortened]... ets this kind of indoctrination, lots of it smells like Jehovah's Witness teacher's guide workbooks.

1. The Good News comes from the mouth of Jesus Christ.
2. The core teachings of the Gospel of Christ is in one place ... the first 7 chapters of Matt and Luke .. and scattered all over the bible as well by different authors.
3. The Gospel of Christ needs no support from other writers.
4. There is a whole lot of other information by the Apostles but the core of the Gospel which is for ALL PEOPLE TO FOLLOW IS FROM CHRIST, AND THAT DOES NOT CHANGE.
5. Nothing said by Paul in other books, contradicts that Doers of the law are justified. In fact Paul supports this all over his writings by warning Christian Saints that there is no inheritance in the Kingdom of God unless they DO.
6. Where im from and who I am, where you are from and who you are, is of no consequence to this discussion. Dont ask, dont tell.

@kellyjay said
Again, not the point you address, just insults, how little of you.

You make no point. You keep regurgating the same thing and asking the same questions that have already been answered in this thread. Im just getting fed up with your stupidity.

@kellyjay said
I know you are still not giving scriptures references for the things you claim are valid outside of vague references to them; my ability to read isn't the issue; it is your ability to give clear, concise proof through text. The only thing you do give scripture text for is something you twist, works, works, works while it is Jesus who saves by God's grace and mercy, a gift of ...[text shortened]... in the same manner you do here, attacking the speaker as if that is somehow reasoning in your mind.

You really are crazy.

@rajk999 said
1. The Good News comes from the mouth of Jesus Christ.
2. The core teachings of the Gospel of Christ is in one place ... the first 7 chapters of Matt and Luke .. and scattered all over the bible as well by different authors.
3. The Gospel of Christ needs no support from other writers.
4. There is a whole lot of other information by the Apostles but the core of the Gospe ...[text shortened]... , where you are from and who you are, is of no consequence to this discussion. Dont ask, dont tell.

The core of the good news is Jesus Christ, all of His words, deeds, and life.
The impact of everything about Him is the good news, not just the words He said.
God's plan on earth He shared in scriptures, all of them, those moved by God, those that encountered God that God used never conflict with one another. You take some text interpreting them that go totally against other text and think you have all of the truth, your private interpretation you place over the ones that God used to write the Bible.

There is no BOOK OF JESUS where He wrote His truth; God used all of the writers in the scriptures to share about both their experiences with the Lord and the Holy Spirit as God led them. Everything you see is from other writers, the four gospels and Acts none of those were written by Jesus, He was quoted in them, and the truths experienced by those people were shared.

@kellyjay said
The core of the good news is Jesus Christ, all of His words, deeds, and life.
The impact of everything about Him is the good news, not just the words He said.
God's plan on earth He shared in scriptures, all of them, those moved by God, those that encountered God that God used never conflict with one another. You take some text interpreting them that go totally against oth ...[text shortened]... ere written by Jesus, He was quoted in them, and the truths experienced by those people were shared.

Interesting, and yet you are blind to the fact that you are promoting a gospel not found in the teachings of Christ... eg
- free gift [Jesus said no such thing]
- saved by faith and not by works [Jesus said no such thing]

And what is worse your gospel excludes the teachings of Christ, which he did say are critical for eternal life.

How blind can you get.

@rajk999 said
Interesting, and yet you are blind to the fact that you are promoting a gospel not found in the teachings of Christ... eg
- free gift [Jesus said no such thing]
- saved by faith and not by works [Jesus said no such thing]

And what is worse your gospel excludes the teachings of Christ, which he did say are critical for eternal life.

How blind can you get.

The whole Bible, not just your little pet scriptures.