The gospel

@kellyjay said
The whole Bible, not just your little pet scriptures.

@Rajk999

You are preaching the teachings of Christ who advised people to better themsevles and to sin no more. These types of Christians do not agree with that doctrine. They preach that man is a filthy sinner, he cannot avoid constant sin and he can do nothing to better himself. He needs to profess faith in Christ who will forgive all sins. Any attempt to improve and better oneself as you suggest is an act of works salvation and a denial of Christ sacrifice on the cross, and this act leads to damnation.

@sonship said
@Rajk999

[quote] You are preaching the teachings of Christ who advised people to better themsevles and to sin no more. These types of Christians do not agree with that doctrine. They preach that man is a filthy sinner, he cannot avoid constant sin and he can do nothing to better himself. He needs to profess faith in Christ who will forgive all sins. Any attempt to improve ...[text shortened]... able?

I doubt that your desire for self improvement was stronger than that of Saul of Tarsus.

Any attempt to improve and better oneself as you suggest is an act of works salvation and a denial of Christ sacrifice on the cross, and this act leads to damnation.

He wrote of having no confidence in himself but taking Christ to be everything he needed. He spoke of being crucified with Christ, buried with Christ, raised with Christ, ascended with Christ, seated with Christ. Everything of his attainment was because of faith in his union with Christ.

Jesus said was the True Vine for the branches to abide in. The abiding branches derive their vitality, energy, and life supply from the riches of the True Vine.

Romans which you said was not part of the Gospel though it is called "the Gospel of God" tells us the consummation of Christ's salvation is not just that man be FORGIVEN. It is that we be conformed to the image of God's Son.

"Because those whom He foreknew, He also predestinated to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the Firstborn among many brothers." (Rom. 8:29)

So you need the living Lord Jesus to be dispensed into your being. And this is not poetic speech. It is as close to what reality actually is - Jesus Christ coming into a man and living in a mingled united way transforming him from within.

It is not just that He because we need His blood for redemption and forgiveness of sins. It is also that He died to terminate the old man, the independent godless rebel man (whether good or evil), that He could fill man with Himself.

That is why Paul spoke not only of how wonderful it was to be forgiven. He spoke about how wonderful it was that he died and was buried and raised with Christ to walk in newness of life.

Its faith all the way. There is no "graduation" from faith for Jesus to be what we need. If it faith that He died for us. It is faith that He can live in us and be everything that we need to be conformed to the image of His Son.

@rajk999 said
You are like sonship. Little do you realise that you are making derogatory statements about the Gospel of Christ when you refer to them as pet scriptures [in a negative way]. Those who listen to Christ, are the sheep of Christ and these get eternal life. Those like you ... well, you will find out.

@kellyjay said
Jesus doesn’t disagree with what the Holy Spirit says through whom He chooses to speak to and through. If your in disagreement with scripture you have issues.

@rajk999 said
I never said I was in disagreement with scripture at all. You are really a very stupid man. Here is what is going on in simple language :

The topic is the Gospel of Christ.
You are promoting the gospel of your church.
Your church gospel is based on the gospel of Paul,
Worse it is not even the correct gospel of Paul,
Several critical things that Paul said you are ...[text shortened]... rom the Gospel of Christ ... I am on the rock who listens to Christ. You ... well you are nowhere.

@kellyjay said
Do you think Jesus is just another guy with an opinion, or the Word of God?

@Rajk999

References won't do you any good.

@rajk999 said
You have the gall to ask me that ??? Ask yourself that. You are the one following after the gospel of your church.

Jesus never preached
- saved by grace
- free gift of eternal life.

If he did please provide the references.

@sonship said
@Rajk999

References won't do you any good.

@kellyjay said
Its a simple question, Jesus asked those with Him who they say He is. Who is Jesus according to you? Not sure what you find offensive about that.

@rajk999 said
Where is the answer to the simple question I asked you about where those teachings are in the Gospel of Christ ?

Anyway I answered your question already in this same thread. When your back is in a corner regarding your false doctrines you resort to cross-questioning me about other matters. .. you are getting more and more like that fool sonship.

@kellyjay said
I shared scripture for what I believe and I have talked about why. You are vague about what you consider the gospel, because you consistently avoid pointing to direct scripture references. You waffle on responding to simple requests for clarification as who Jesus is according to you. You are good about dishing out insults that seems to be the only thing you are consistent ab ...[text shortened]... He is according to you. Why is the Gospel only valid in the hidden scripture you refuse to identify.