The Myth: Once saved always saved!

Originally posted by divegeester
Let me be clear; I do not know who is and isn't saved, only God knows those who are his. To try to say so is being judgemental.

If you see someone sinning are they "backsliden" (hate that term btw) or are they not yet saved? Who knows? You may say that they are unsaved because you believe that person loses thier salvation if they sin to some (yet ...[text shortened]... ured, it is where we are in eternity; not from one day's sin to to the next day's righteousness.

so you're not saved after all, how refreshing, or at least you don't know if you are saved or not, for all you know, i might be saved and you're not, how refreshing.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Another spiritual buffet queen, take what you like and leave what you don't, how convenient for you.

Some of us don't have headquarters telling us what to think, when to think it and when the changes are coming. You have that luxury; you have the comfort of abdicating all responsibility for free thinking in exchange for whatever the Watchtower governing body tells you. There is nothing they have told you that you disagree with is there? Not one thing? It's because you are completely and totally right isn't it? You are the chosen awesome ones, the sole holders of God's truth on earth, the representation of him on earth.

God help us.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
so you're not saved after all, how refreshing, or at least you don't know if you are saved or not, for all you know, i might be saved and you're not, how refreshing.

Stop being such a total asshat carrobie. Wipe the drool from your mouth and read his post again.

He asked how do I know "who" is saved? Not how do I know if "I'm" saved.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Another spiritual buffet queen, take what you like and leave what you don't, how convenient for you.

Since we're name-calling, for you I choose.... Ignoramus! Yes, that fits precisely.

You barely know your own faith, how can you presume to know others'?

Originally posted by divegeester
Stop being such a total asshat carrobie. Wipe the drool from your mouth and read his post again.

He asked how do I know "who" is saved? Not how do I know if "I'm" saved.

How do you know you are saved, do tell and if you know how you are saved why cant you tell if other people are likewise saved?

Originally posted by Suzianne
Since we're name-calling, for you I choose.... Ignoramus! Yes, that fits precisely.

You barely know your own faith, how can you presume to know others'?

Buffet Queen! how convenient for you!

Originally posted by divegeester
Some of us don't have headquarters telling us what to think, when to think it and when the changes are coming. You have that luxury; you have the comfort of abdicating all responsibility for free thinking in exchange for whatever the Watchtower governing body tells you. There is nothing they have told you that you disagree with is there? Not one thing ...[text shortened]... s, the sole holders of God's truth on earth, the representation of him on earth.

God help us.

yes i am a chosen one and a chess bomb! recognition at last.

Originally posted by divegeester
Stop being such a total asshat carrobie. Wipe the drool from your mouth and read his post again.

He asked how do I know "who" is saved? Not how do I know if "I'm" saved.

Known by fruits not works: But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things! NLT

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes i am a chosen one and a chess bomb! recognition at last.

We should find a subject you and sonhouse can debate, such as:

Transistor Transfusion - an exploration into why portable radios are of the devil

Observing two black (ass)holes circle each other in a gravitational dance of negative vibes.

Originally posted by divegeester
We should find a subject you and sonhouse can debate, such as:

Transistor Transfusion - an exploration into why portable radios are of the devil

Observing two black (ass)holes circle each other in a gravitational dance of negative vibes.

Thats bitter, just because I might be saved and you are not, ouch, that gotta hurt!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Thats bitter, just because I might be saved and you are not, ouch, that gotta hurt!

Sure. You have no idea of the contempt with which I hold your corporation.

Originally posted by divegeester
Sure. You have no idea of the contempt with which I hold your corporation.

and yet dogs howl into the twilight and the caravan trundles on!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Thats bitter, just because I might be saved and you are not, ouch, that gotta hurt!

Careful!!! Humility is best.

I never belittle someone who does not think like i do, nor have my style of faith.

Originally posted by divegeester
Sure. You have no idea of the contempt with which I hold your corporation.

I do not condemn the J. W. for their beliefs. One has to remember, what part of the Bible is not the Bible. Even if all you have is a half of a single page, and take what is written into your heart. Have you not received Christ too. Jesus is the WORD of God. And any part of the WORD is Jesus. If you are Jewish, and receive the WORD into your heart, then you have received Jesus, even if you don't know Him.