Originally posted by KellyJayThis is an excellent point thank you. I've never noticed this before. Supports my ONE person godhead perspective, would you agree?
John 10: 17-18 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
Imply...what does the scripture say?
28 Jul 16
Originally posted by divegeesterBump for sonship...
Still wriggling. I always know when you sectarian types are on the ropes when the answer is smothered in qualification and obfuscation .
Can you please tell me; is it possible to be filled with the spirit of Christ and reject a clear and fully informed understanding of your version of the trinity?
It's a yes or no answer sonship.
28 Jul 16
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Originally posted by divegeesterThis is sonship writing. I am away from home now. When I return today I will answer this question again with as much straightforward detail as I presently know how.
Bump for sonship...
I consider this question about the assurance of salvation more than about teaching of the three-oneness of God's nature.
Originally posted by gswilmOk.
This is sonship writing. I am away from home now. When I return today I will answer this question again with as much straightforward detail as I presently know how.
I consider this question about the assurance of salvation more than about teaching of the three-oneness of God's nature.
It's really very straightforward:
Does rejection of your version/teaching of the trinity godhead preclude someone from being Christ spirit filled and therefore saved (accordion to your previous definition)?
It either does or it doesn't.
Originally posted by KellyJayOriginally posted by divegeester
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This is an excellent point thank you. I've never noticed this before. Supports my ONE person godhead perspective, would you agree?
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Did you accidentally break the terms of your shunning of divegeester? 😛
28 Jul 16
Originally posted by FMFA schizophrenic .. its the other guy that replied to Dive. The one who promised to shun deleted the post.
Originally posted by divegeester
[b]This is an excellent point thank you. I've never noticed this before. Supports my ONE person godhead perspective, would you agree?
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Did you accidentally break the terms of your shunning of divegeester? 😛[/b]
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28 Jul 16
Originally posted by KellyJayJesus knew God would raise him up if he remained sinless, so it was in his hands. It helps understand what he meant.
It says what is written, and you dismissing Jesus is God is the only thing it contradicts.
Jesus had a guarantee from his reading of scripture that God would raise him from the dead IF he remained sinless and obeyed even to death.
So in a sense it was in Jesus hands or control to be raised from the dead, but conditional.
That is why he says he can lay down his life and take it back again.
Can I say it any more simply? God is still the one who raised him from the dead, not Jesus himself.
28 Jul 16
Originally posted by checkbaiterWhat He wants, I can only go by what I read.
[b]Jesus knew God would raise him up if he remained sinless, so it was in his hands. It helps understand what he meant.
Jesus had a guarantee from his reading of scripture that God would raise him from the dead IF he remained sinless and obeyed even to death.
So in a sense it was in Jesus hands or control to be raised from the dead, but cond ...[text shortened]... I say it any more simply? God is still the one who raised him from the dead, not Jesus himself.[/b]
What I read was quite clear, that it goes against something you believe is not my problem.
The scripture Is clear you introducing this, I know what it says, but this is what he meant
isn't healthy.
28 Jul 16
Originally posted by KellyJayDid you take your medication for schizophrenia?
What He wants, I can only go by what I read.
What I read was quite clear, that it goes against something you believe is not my problem.
The scripture Is clear you introducing this, I know what it says, but this is what he meant
isn't healthy.
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28 Jul 16
Originally posted by KellyJayOk, so what do you think he meant? That he raised himself?
What He wants, I can only go by what I read.
What I read was quite clear, that it goes against something you believe is not my problem.
The scripture Is clear you introducing this, I know what it says, but this is what he meant
isn't healthy.
