What!? Not Talk About the Trinity ?

" In considering the hidden mysteries of Scripture, we should speculate soberly and with great moderation, cautiously guarding against allowing either our mind or our tongue to go a step beyond the confines of God's Word. For how can the human mind, which has not yet been able to ascertain of what the body of the sun consists, though it is daily presented to the eye, bring down the boundless essence of God to its little measure? Nay, how can it, under its own guidance, penetrate to a knowledge of the substance of God while unable to understand its own?

Wherefore, let us willingly leave to God the knowledge of himself, never to attempt to search after God anywhere but in His sacred Word, and never to speak or think of Him farther than we have it for our guide. But if distinction of Father, Son, and Spirit, subsisting in the one Godhead (certainly a subject of great difficulty), gives more trouble and annoyance to some intellects than is meet, let us remember that the human mind enters a labyrinth whenever it indulges its curiosity, and thus submit to be guided by the divine oracles, how much soever the mystery may be beyond our reach."

[John Calvin (A.D. 1509-1564), ]
[ The Testimony of Church History Regarding the Mystery of the Triune God ,Bill Freeman, Stream Publishers, pg 31, my spacing ]

Originally posted by sonship

Augustine -

" ... human language labors altogether under great poverty of speech. The answer, however, is given three "Persons," not that it might be completely spoken, but that it might not be left wholly unspoken. "

I'm not interested in what Augustine says.

Don't worry, Suzianne will be along in a minute to thumb down every one of my posts and attack me for bullying you.

Originally posted by sonship
[quote] " In considering the hidden mysteries of Scripture, we should speculate soberly and with great moderation, cautiously guarding against allowing either our mind or our tongue to go a step beyond the confines of God's Word. For how can the human mind, which has not yet been able to ascertain of what the body of the sun consists, though it is daily pres ...[text shortened]... egarding the Mystery of the Triune God ,Bill Freeman, Stream Publishers, pg 31, my spacing ][/b]

"Hear oh Israel, the lord your god is ONE."

Not three.
Not triune.

Originally posted by divegeester
I'm not interested in what Augustine says.

Don't worry, Suzianne will be along in a minute to thumb down every one of my posts and attack me for bullying you.

I am interested in most all the members of the Body of Christ thoughout history.

I am interested in fellowship. I recognize others have gone before and I can benefit from their life's experience.

You implied that I was being exclusive. "Are you saying WE Christians to exclude me?" you asked. The answer is no not necessarily. But you seem exclusive that you don't need to hear anything from a brother John Calvin.

Maybe you're the excluding one. At any rate, some of these brothers are still a benefit to listen to, if not in everything, in some things.

Originally posted by divegeester
"Hear oh Israel, the lord your god is ONE."

Not three.
Not triune.

Did you visit the thread on "The Misuse of the Shema".

Just asking.

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Shema Yisreal, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad

The website is called Hebrew for Christians.

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Scripture/Torah/The_Shema/the_shema.html

To begin with please notice how the writer under a translation - [My bolding]

Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord the writer writes:

This translation marks that Lord our God is One. Interestingly, the word echad in Hebrew can imply a unity in diversity, (the word for one and only one i.e.,unique, is more often rendered yachid ). For example, in Exodus 26:6 the various parts of the Tabernacle (mishkan) are to be constructed so that "it shall be one (echad) tabernacle," and Ezekiel spoke of two "sticks" (representing fragmented israel) as being reunited into one: " and they shall be one (echad) in My hand" (Ezekiel 37:19) . Moses also used echad in Genesis 2:24 when he wrote "And they (husband and wife) will become one flesh (basar echad)."

Originally posted by sonship
I am interested in most all the members of the Body of Christ thoughout history.

I am interested in fellowship. I recognize others have gone before and I can benefit from their life's experience.

You implied that I was being exclusive. "Are you saying WE Christians to exclude me?" you asked. The answer is no not necessarily. But you seem exclusive t ...[text shortened]... , some of these brothers are still a benefit to listen to, if not in everything, in some things.

Good for you - perhaps this is why you have some strange beliefs.

Originally posted by sonship
Did you visit the thread on [b]"The Misuse of the Shema".

Just asking.

...

Shema Yisreal, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad

The website is called Hebrew for Christians.

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Scripture/Torah/The_Shema/the_shema.html

To begin with please notice how the writer under a translation - [My bolding]

Hea ...[text shortened]... s 2:24 when he wrote "And they (husband and wife) will become one flesh (basar echad)."

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No

Just replying

😀

Originally posted by divegeester
I'm not interested in what Augustine says.

Don't worry, Suzianne will be along in a minute to thumb down every one of my posts and attack me for bullying you.

Don't worry, Suzianne will be along in a minute to thumb down every one of my posts and attack me for bullying you.

Let's act like adults. Let's set egoes aside and discuss what is the reasonable approach to have to the subject of God's mysterious nature.

Do you think the mystery of God's nature is no big deal as if Christians have made a mountain out of a mole hill ? Piece of cake ? No big deal? No need for "trinity" word to speak something of this profound revelation of Scripture ?

Originally posted by divegeester
Good for you - perhaps this is why you have some strange beliefs.

What "strange beliefs" are you speaking of ?

Originally posted by sonship

Don't worry, Suzianne will be along in a minute to thumb down every one of my posts and attack me for bullying you.

Let's act like adults. Let's set egoes aside and discuss what is the reasonable approach to have to the subject of God's mysterious nature.

Do you think the mystery of God's nature is no big deal as if Christians have ma ...[text shortened]... g deal? No need for "trinity" word to speak something of this profound revelation of Scripture ?

There is absolutely nothing in the teachings of Christ which says that the mystery of Gods nature need to be understood.

There is plenty however on how followers of Jesus are supposed to live in Christ .. things which you preach are not relevant or important.

You and your type are therefore good examples of those who strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.

Originally posted by sonship
Do you think the mystery of God's nature is no big deal as if Christians have made a mountain out of a mole hill ? Piece of cake ? No big deal? No need for "trinity" word to speak something of this profound revelation of Scripture ?

No.
No.
No.
No.

You keep asking questions and not responding to my replies.

Originally posted by divegeester
No.

You keep asking questions and not responding to my replies.

No.

I assume that you are answering that there was no need for any "trinity" word to be coined.

I can see the need for defending the NT that Christ was God incarnate against the Arians.

You keep asking questions and not responding to my replies.

It only appears to you that way. I don't always see a question mark after your little posts as if you are requesting a response.

As I write, I want to see you identify these "strange beliefs" you say I have, just one.

Originally posted by Rajk999

There is absolutely nothing in the teachings of Christ which says that the mystery of Gods nature need to be understood.

John 14:10,11 indicates that He realized the relationship between Him and the Father was mysterious to His twelve disciples.

Originally posted by sonship
What "strange beliefs" are you speaking of ?

Are you inviting me to comment on this here last time I did you chastised me.

Originally posted by sonship

There is absolutely nothing in the teachings of Christ which says that the mystery of Gods nature need to be understood.

[b]John 14:10,11 indicates that He realized the relationship between Him and the Father was mysterious to His twelve disciples.[/b]

How do you thin the disciples interpreted:

"hear oh Israel the Lord your God in one"?