26 Jul 16
Originally posted by checkbaiterNo, I think you pretending that you don't see the difference between what I believe (non trinity) and what sonship believes (trinity).
Pretending what? That I can't keep up? I don't know all the variations of Trinity beliefs.
Some say Jesus and God are one, some say they are co-equal, some say all three are equal but are one and the same, some say all three are separate, and on and on.
26 Jul 16
Originally posted by chaney3What makes you what you claim to be, apart form your "say so"?
What makes you a Christian, besides your say so?
You certainly never display a shred of anything associated with Christ or His teachings.
Just arrogance, spite and attitude. Your words resemble more of the 'adversary'.
26 Jul 16
Originally posted by divegeesterWe've been around on this before. Personally, I think you're just "hung up" on the name 'Trinity'.
No, I think you pretending that you don't see the difference between what I believe (non trinity) and what sonship believes (trinity).
Trinitarians say that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all God.
You say that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all Jesus.
What's the difference again?
26 Jul 16
Originally posted by roigamSpeaking of "invented by man", your words might hold more weight if you used a more universally acceptable version of the Bible.
Neither the word trinity nor the idea of a three in one God are i the Bible.
These things are invented by man.
I don't see how you can argue anything based on the NWT.
26 Jul 16
Originally posted by chaney3 to divegeesterSaying things like this to other believers in Christ will certainly have you feeling at home with several of the Christians here on the SF who love dishing out this kind of stuff in cyberspace - assuming you yourself eventually decide to become a Christian, that is.
What makes you a Christian, besides your say so?
You certainly never display a shred of anything associated with Christ or His teachings.
Just arrogance, spite and attitude. Your words resemble more of the 'adversary'.
26 Jul 16
Originally posted by SuzianneDon't you think, though, in terms of scripture, when it comes to the NWT versus whichever version of the Bible you prefer, that there's more that unites you and robbie as Christians than divides you?
Speaking of "invented by man", your words might hold more weight if you used a more universally acceptable version of the Bible.
I don't see how you can argue anything based on the NWT.
26 Jul 16
Originally posted by SuzianneI believe God is one person. Trinitarians believe God is three persons.
We've been around on this before. Personally, I think you're just "hung up" on the name 'Trinity'.
Trinitarians say that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all God.
You say that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all Jesus.
What's the difference again?
You don't need a "Masters" to figure it out 😉
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Originally posted by divegeester
I believe God is one person. Trinitarians believe God is three persons.
Do you agree that the nature of God as revealed in the Bible is very mysterious ?
Or do you believe all the mystery and puzzlement to our minds is only because of people imagining it so ?
I mean, like, would you say, 'What's the big deal folks? Why God is very simple to comprehend in the Bible."
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Originally posted by checkbaiterIf S.I.T. means speaking in tongues, yes I respect any genuine gift of speaking in tongues.
Do you reject S.I.T.?
I use to practice something for awhile. But I don't know if it was really tongue speaking. i did what I was encouraged to do.
I do not forbid it or think it has no place in the church age.
Prayreading is much, much better IMO.
My wife believes that she had a genuine instance of spontaneous tongue speaking once..
26 Jul 16
Originally posted by sonshipMatt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
We both want to enter the narrow gate and walk the constricted way.
I cannot do it unless I worship Jesus as my Lord and my God. It is not good enough that He left a good example. I cannot imitate Him like a poodle walking on its hind legs like a man. I must have the Christ of the New Testament - IN ME as God, to be my life.
Gifts is not lif ...[text shortened]... ake it. I cannot do so without confessing Jesus as my Lord and my God and my very life.
You got that? ONLY A FEW FIND THAT NARROW WAY.
You and your doctrine of the trinity, and your claim to be eternally saved are the most common teachings in Christianity and there are zillions of people like you who claim to have Jesus, and who believe they have the Spirit of God.
So far in all your posts you have failed to hit the nail on the head of what it takes to have Christ and to enter into eternal life in the Kingdom of God. Your doctrine is a sham.
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Divegeester ?
Do you agree that the nature of God as revealed in the Bible is very mysterious ?
Or do you believe all the mystery and puzzlement to our minds is only because of people imagining it so ?
Augustine -
" ... human language labors altogether under great poverty of speech. The answer, however, is given three "Persons," not that it might be completely spoken, but that it might not be left wholly unspoken. "
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Originally posted by sonship"Do you agree that the nature of God as revealed in the Bible is very mysterious?"
Do you agree that the nature of God as revealed in the Bible is very mysterious ?
Or do you believe all the mystery and puzzlement to our minds is only because of people imagining it so ?
I mean, like, would you say, 'What's the big deal folks? Why God is very simple to comprehend in the Bible."
No I don't, I think the "nature" of God is very straightforward. I think there is "mystery in the revelation of God in Christ". Nothing "very", no superlatives. And i believe that Christian's don't have to remain in "mystery".
"Or do you believe all the mystery and puzzlement to our minds is only because of people imagining it so ?"
I believe that theologians, and religionist mystics try to apply pagan constructs to Christian teaching in order to explain things like "the mystery of God in Christ" to a laity who lean of their every word without discernment.
"I mean, like, would you say, 'What's the big deal folks? Why God is very simple to comprehend in the Bible."
No I can't imagine ever using phraseology like that to explain god to someone.
26 Jul 16
Originally posted by sonshipWhy don't you give people chance to respond!
Divegeester ?
Do you agree that the nature of God as revealed in the Bible is very mysterious ?
Or do you believe all the mystery and puzzlement to our minds is only because of people imagining it so ?
[b]Augustine -
" ... human language labors altogether under great poverty of speech. The answer, however, is given three "Persons ...[text shortened]... ot that it might be completely spoken, but that it might not be left wholly unspoken. "[/b]
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Originally posted by sonshipFurther.I believe God is one person. Trinitarians believe God is three persons.
Do you agree that the nature of God as revealed in the Bible is very mysterious ?
Or do you believe all the mystery and puzzlement to our minds is only because of people imagining it so ?
I mean, like, would you say, 'What's the big deal folks? Why God is very simple to comprehend in the Bible."
I believe that god is one person. You believe that God is three persons.
The bible says very clearly over and over and over again...Hear oh Israel, the Lord your god is ONE.
All your convoluted scripture bending cannot deal with this simple truthful construct.