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Originally posted by robbie carrobieIsn't it to join the johovahs Witness organisation and trundle from door to door handing out your doom and gloom the end of the world is nigh magazine and try to convince people that they will escape the impending holocaust is they follow your example?
I doubt many understand what the will of the Father is. I know you don't because I have asked you many times.
How successful have you been in getting people to sign up then Robbie?
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Originally posted by menace71Very good.
Modalism is the non-trinitarian idea that the one God revealed Himself in different Modes so to speak right ? I guess I differ just because the belief is that God existed in the mode of the Father before the birth of Jesus then in the incarnation He existed as the son and then at the ascension in the mode of the spirit but never simultaneously but we can se ...[text shortened]... to hate or kill or argue with malice with others over the Trinity is not of God .....
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Originally posted by divegeesterDivegeester, Have I been a bad influence on you ? LOL!
Yes I agree, on both counts.
But I'm not asking you about authority or correctness, we know we disagree on it. My enquiry is how you came to understand/believe that Jesus is not God...which church or sect taught you?
Is checkbaiter still saved if he has a different dogma than you on whether Jesus is God incarnate or not ?
Do you see what I mean now ? It is inconceivable to me that a man says he's a disciple of Jesus yet does not believe Jesus is God incarnate. Here's checkbaiter though.
Christians, [Jesus forewarned (Matt. 13) ] sometimes will not be able to tell real believers from false ones.
Do you kind of see what I mean now? Sometimes we just cannot give a simple Yes or No about an apparent brother's experience. But we notice some strange influence compelling him to say or write rather questionable things.
You cannot always deal with the man's personal experience.
But you can deal with what is being said.
Am I right ?
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Originally posted by sonshipDid something Jesus say about what His disciplies should believe influence you to make this statement? I doubt it. This is the kind of statement that comes from being brainwashed by the teachings of men.
.. It is inconceivable to me that a man says he's a disciple of Jesus yet does not believe Jesus is God incarnate. ..
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Originally posted by Rajk999Were you kicked out of the Jehovah's Witnesses ?
Did something Jesus say about what His disciplies should believe influence you to make this statement? I doubt it. This is the kind of statement that comes from being brainwashed by the teachings of men.
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Originally posted by Rajk999You know I can handle your question all day long if I wanted to.
Cant handle the question?
I get the impression that you may have been thrusted out of some group.
One day I may find out if I'm right or not.
You sound like someone who was disfellowshipped from some weird group.
You sound like you cut your teeth in some cult but was latter kicked out for being too individualistic.
As for me ? I am being taken care of very, very well, thankyou.
In my early Christian life I prayed and asked God to put me with some brothers who could help me to be a follower of Jesus. God answered that prayer very faithfully.
And for over 42 years I have never considered that the Christians I meet with were not the best I could possibly be in fellowship with.
I know that God answered that prayer of that young man over 42 years ago.
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Originally posted by sonshipIts called narcissism. Google it and get some help. I did not ask you about yourself and you talking about yourself is not going to influence me to talk about myself.
You know I can handle your question all day long if I wanted to.
I get the impression that you may have been thrusted out of some group.
One day I may find out if I'm right or not.
You sound like someone who was disfellowshipped from some weird group.
You sound like you cut your teeth in some cult but was latter kicked out for being too indivi ...[text shortened]... fellowship with.
I know that God answered that prayer of that young man over 42 years ago.
Here is the question : Did something Jesus say about what His disciplies should believe influence you to make this statement?
.. It is inconceivable to me that a man says he's a disciple of Jesus yet does not believe Jesus is God incarnate. ..
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Originally posted by Rajk999
Its called narcissism. Google it and get some help. I did not ask you about yourself and you talking about yourself is not going to influence me to talk about myself.
Here is the question : Did something Jesus say about what His disciplies should believe influence you to make this statement?
[b].. It is inconceivable to me that a man says he's a disciple of Jesus yet does not believe Jesus is God incarnate. ..[/b]
Its called narcissism. Google it and get some help. I did not ask you about yourself and you talking about yourself is not going to influence me to talk about myself.
Malignant Narcissism ? Seen plenty of videos on that. Pretty interesting too.
Sam Valinkan.
I am not sure whether you meant me or you or who.
However, I have said before that giving personal testimony is also part of being a witness for Christ.
And the way you buckle under even the slightest question about your personal experience seems contrary to the teaching of Christ. I do not think my questions along this line have ever been TOO intrusive.
Paul gives us something of an autobiographic sketch. He was a witness to Christ.
You cannot STAND to be asked ANYTHING regarding your supposedly pristine Christian life.
It is strange for one purporting to know all about what it is to follow Jesus.
I am not being too intruding, I think.
Here is the question : Did something Jesus say about what His disciples should believe influence you to make this statement?
To make what statement specifically ?
You're not ashamed to speak in public of your early spiritual beginnings are you ?
Is narcissism your excuse for not wanting to bear witness to your early spiritual beginnings?
Do you think Paul's testimony in Acts was filled with Narcissism ?
Do you think Second Corinthians is a book filled with Paul's Narcissism ?
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Originally posted by divegeesterOh yes.
Still feel this way...? 😉
I still feel this way and even more so, since I first touched the local church in New York City in 1974.
I have fellowshipped in the church in New York, the church in Newton Mass., the church in Greensboro NC, and now in the church in Dunn Loring VA.
Where ever the saints meet on the ground of oneness receiving all in the locality to the glory of God, that's where I have to be. The greatest blessing I have experienced is where there is the minimum unity of the normal assembly life.
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