Why has a bee's sting evolved to be barbed?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Which is my point, you don't like God did it, so you reject it, it does
not matter that it may be the only reason, it only matters you do not
like it. If the only reason you reject the notion of a universe designed
is that you dislike it, you are not looking at it with open eyes, but have
placed blinders upon yourself.
My complaints about the Big Bang have never included Genesis, I do
not bring it up, typically someone like you does.
Kelly

ah but here is where you are wrong about me.

i do not dismiss creation, i dismiss genesis. genesis, in the light of today's discoveries is utter garbage. i believe that god made the universe, and i am interested how he done it. to achieve that knowledge i will trust hawkings and einstein and whoever other brilliant physicist comes up with, not the story a dude named moses came up with to teach the jews what happens if they disobey authority. i will trust that the universe is 15 billion years because it makes more sense than dinosaurs walking the earth and adam and eve breeding like rabbits.

my apologies i thought you dismissed big bang because you trust in the genesis story. then tell me what other theory about the creation of the universe you came to trust.

Originally posted by Zahlanzi
ah but here is where you are wrong about me.

i do not dismiss creation, i dismiss genesis. genesis, in the light of today's discoveries is utter garbage. i believe that god made the universe, and i am interested how he done it. to achieve that knowledge i will trust hawkings and einstein and whoever other brilliant physicist comes up with, not the story ...[text shortened]... sis story. then tell me what other theory about the creation of the universe you came to trust.

That's really strange considering that Moses lived a long time closer than hawkings or einstein, why do you trust physicists more than someone close to God since you Believe in Him? What if I said I was a physicist and I said the same thing Moses did, then you would have to Believe me or you would be lying, so that destroys that theory, dinosaurs could've walked the Earth say 6000 years ago there's no way the fossils would still exist 15 billion years later, besides 1. Adam and Eve only had 4 children, 2. If that happened than there would be more people on this Earth than there are atoms this world is made of.

Originally posted by daniel58
That's really strange considering that Moses lived a long time closer than hawkings or einstein, why do you trust physicists more than someone close to God since you Believe in Him? What if I said I was a physicist and I said the same thing Moses did, then you would have to Believe me or you would be lying, so that destroys that theory, dinosaurs could've ...[text shortened]... ned than there would be more people on this Earth than there are atoms this world is made of.

You show extrodinary low knowledge of science if you really believe what you wrote about dinosaurs.

And about biblical things. Where did it say that Adam and Eve had 4 children? Can you name them?

Originally posted by FabianFnas
You show extrodinary low knowledge of science if you really believe what you wrote about dinosaurs.

And about biblical things. Where did it say that Adam and Eve had 4 children? Can you name them?

Cain,
Abel,
Henoch, and
Seth

Originally posted by daniel58
Cain,
Abel,
Henoch, and
Seth

No more than these four children, Daniel?
Sure? Does the texts say so explicitly?

No more than these four children, Daniel?

No.

Originally posted by daniel58
No.

So the entired world was populated to mama Eve, papa Adam, and some boys. From these peopl the rest of the humanity was sprung? You accuse the boys to be m#ther f#ckers? And the rest of us to be products of incestous acts?

Originally posted by FabianFnas
So the entired world was populated to mama Eve, papa Adam, and some boys. From these peopl the rest of the humanity was sprung? You accuse the boys to be m#ther f#ckers? And the rest of us to be products of incestous acts?

No Cain and Henoch had Children, God let them because He wanted us from the same parents that the only reason though

Originally posted by daniel58
No Cain and Henoch had Children, God let them because He wanted us from the same parents that the only reason though

Holy crap, you guys really delude yourselves to an exquisite level don't you?
Any possible indication that the rubbish you believe might be ... well, rubbish, is quickly snuffed out by irrationality and delusion.

Originally posted by amannion
Holy crap, you guys really delude yourselves to an exquisite level don't you?
Any possible indication that the rubbish you believe might be ... well, rubbish, is quickly snuffed out by irrationality and delusion.

You must not have nor read The Bible.

Originally posted by daniel58
You must not have nor read The Bible.

I must not have nor read the bible?
What the hell does that even mean?

I hate to sound elitist or anything, but why is it that many of you creationist, fundamentalist weirdos, can't string a simple sentence together?

Yes I have read the bible. It's interesting - mostly damned boring with some interesting stories occasionally dotted in there. But so what?
I don't base my life or how I live on any book, not even one that purports to be written by a god or inspired by a god or the word of god or whatever else you want to call it.
I've given up fairy stories except to read to my kids at night.

Originally posted by amannion
I must not have nor read the bible?
What the hell does that even mean?

I hate to sound elitist or anything, but why is it that many of you creationist, fundamentalist weirdos, can't string a simple sentence together?

Yes I have read the bible. It's interesting - mostly damned boring with some interesting stories occasionally dotted in there. But so w ...[text shortened]... r else you want to call it.
I've given up fairy stories except to read to my kids at night.

Apparently not at least Genesis.

The Bible is not a fairy tale.

Originally posted by daniel58
Apparently not at least Genesis.

The Bible is not a fairy tale.

Sure it is. There's angels, demons, dragons, unicorns and all manner of magical stuff going on throughout the bible. The sooner you come to this realization, the less of your life you'll waste.

I don't say this out of any desire to be mean, but, it is the truth and I'd be remiss if I didn't share it with you.

Oh, and amninumbnuts does have a point, you really need to invest in a dictionary or some basic writing classes. You're barely coherent.

Originally posted by daniel58
No Cain and Henoch had Children, God let them because He wanted us from the same parents that the only reason though

They had children? With whom? It takes two to have a child of which one have to be a woman. The only woman in the world at that time was Eve, you've said it yourself!

Now think a little! ou've said that Adam and Eve got four children. You named them, there was only boys. No girls. Yet you say that the boys had children themselves?

Is this the kind of religioun you want us to belive in? The first generation after Adam and Eve, boys were pregnant? You're possessed with Satan!

Originally posted by FabianFnas
They had children? With whom? It takes two to have a child of which one have to be a woman. The only woman in the world at that time was Eve, you've said it yourself!

Now think a little! ou've said that Adam and Eve got four children. You named them, there was only boys. No girls. Yet you say that the boys had children themselves?

Is this the kind o ...[text shortened]... in? The first generation after Adam and Eve, boys were pregnant? You're possessed with Satan!

once you consider that from adam and eve sprung the whole human race you really admit that genetics plays no part in the early days. therefore god must have personally taken care of every child born so as to not be retarded or even unable to perform basic functions like synthesize proteins. or infertile. and since you involve god in the process, there is no limit you won't be able to cross. then all of the universe is explained: "god did it" and you can go home and churn butter amish style and forget about science in the first place.

that is if you forget that all technology came from man. in the greek mithology the titan prometheus gave man fire. the jewish god gave man nothing, only life.(and of course pestilence and death). therefore if we all thought like these guys do there would be no progress and we would still grow whatever we find and hunt animals for food and clothes.