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‘Eternal suffering’ is nonsensical

‘Eternal suffering’ is nonsensical

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Why do you keep on asking questions you already know the answer to? Anybody that was a Christian for decades knows the answer to that question.
The question is about your beliefs not mine, past or present. Here it is again: According to your beliefs, when you die, what consequences will you face for all the wrongs you have committed in your lifetime?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If you have something to say about the answer that you already know, say it.
You haven't answered it yet.

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Originally posted by @fmf
That people get fed up of you is not because you are clever or have good arguments, it's because your teenage gimmicks and chip-on-your-shoulder trolling make you seem like a jerk.
As always you can only resort to insults. Very mature indeed.

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Originally posted by @fmf
The question is about your beliefs not mine, past or present. Here it is again: According to your beliefs, when you die, what consequences will you face for all the wrongs you have committed in your lifetime?
My beliefs are no different to what yours were if you were in fact a Christian.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
As always you can only resort to insults. Very mature indeed.
I'm just explaining to you the dynamic, which you seem not to be picking up on ~ or you're pretending not to. You seem to think your supposed debating skills are striking 'fear' into the adults you are interacting with here, but you just keep ignoring the exact and explicit reasons people are giving you point blank for tiring of you.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
My beliefs are no different to what yours were if you were in fact a Christian.
Well, I am asking you about your Christian belief ~ regardless of whether you think they are the same or different from what my past beliefs were. I am not a Christian. Assume for the purposes of this question that I never was: According to your beliefs [forget about what mine might have been], when you die, what consequences will you face for all the wrongs you have committed in your lifetime?

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Originally posted by @fmf
I'm just explaining to you the dynamic, which you seem not to be picking up on ~ or you're pretending not to. You seem to think your supposed debating skills are striking 'fear' into the adults you are interacting with here, but you just keep ignoring the exact and explicit reasons people are giving you point blank for tiring of you.
If you can’t produce any evidence to back up the reasons you give don’t expect anyone to take you seriously apart from your lapdogs of course.

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Originally posted by @fmf
Well, I am asking you about your Christian belief ~ regardless of whether you think they are the same or different from what my past beliefs were. I am not a Christian. Assume for the purposes of this question that I never was: According to your beliefs [forget about what mine might have been], when you die, what consequences will you face for all the wrongs you have committed in your lifetime?
I will face the justice of God that is revealed in the Bible that you know very well.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
I will face the justice of God that is revealed in the Bible that you know very well.
OK, most Christians here claim that their "sins" are "forgiven" and that they are "saved" by their belief that this "salvation" is what Jesus gifted them by letting himself be executed by the Romans. In other words, for all intents and purposes, such Christians believe they face no consequences for all the wrongs you have committed in their lifetimes ~ while, by extension ~ non-believers do face consequences. If you have ever distanced yourself from the Christians here who preach this dogma, then I missed it.

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Originally posted by @fmf
OK, most Christians here claim that their "sins" are "forgiven" and that they are "saved" by their belief that this "salvation" is what Jesus gifted them by letting himself be executed by the Romans. In other words, for all intents and purposes, such Christians believe they face no consequences for all the wrongs you have committed in their lifetimes ~ while, b ...[text shortened]... u have ever distanced yourself from the Christians here who preach this dogma, then I missed it.
Most Christians I know would agree with me that repentance and restitution are very important first steps of salvation.

To me it seems you probably think that if you were God you would do things differently and that you know better. Is that what you think?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If you can’t produce any evidence to back up the reasons you give don’t expect anyone to take you seriously apart from your lapdogs of course.
"Evidence to back up the reasons" I have given? Huh? It's in the posts in which various posters tell you that you are a tedious/obnoxious jerk/troll or words to that effect.

You need more evidence of what they think of you than what they themselves actually say to you??

Do you not read the posts in which people tell you what they think of you?

Do you really need more evidence than that in order to know what they think of you?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Most Christians I know would agree with me that repentance and restitution are very important first steps of salvation.
So the "consequences" of your wrong doing are... what? "Repentance and restitution"?

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
To me it seems you probably think that if you were God you would do things differently and that you know better. Is that what you think?
Do you have any idea how much this sounds like a surly teenager with nothing to say?

I have no comment on what it "seems" to you I "probably" do.

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Originally posted by @fmf
So the "consequences" of your wrong doing are... what? "Repentance and restitution"?
No Jesus took the consequences of my wong doings upon himself.

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Originally posted by @fmf
"Evidence to back up the reasons" I have given? Huh? It's in the posts in which various posters tell you that you are a tedious/obnoxious jerk/troll or words to that effect.

You need more evidence of what they think of you than what they themselves actually say to you??

Do you not read the posts in which people tell you what they think of you?

Do you really need more evidence than that in order to know what they think of you?
From my perspective they resort to ad hominems because they can't deal with the fact they I am scrutinizing their arguments.

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