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07 Jan 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterIf it is not agreement with you, what basis do you use to decide that sonship is being dishonest?
You are do disengenuous sonship, I find your intellectual dishonesty quite distasteful. You know very well that I’m not referring to blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, I’m talking about the billions of souls in hell being burnt alive becuase they are not Christians and you trying to to use “eternal sin” to justify “eternal suffering”.
Try to be honest Sir.
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Originally posted by @sonshipHere is the post reposted for the third time, and the two questions you are dodging are in bold.
You have Jesus Christ to blame.
I believe His words.
I no longer expect you to be honest about this.
I no longer anticipate that you will honestly admit that these words are in the New Testament. [b](Matt. 25:41,46).
I expect that you are obsessed with resentment against the words of Jesus Christ, misdirecting your blame and accusation against ...[text shortened]... worst and most horrible end of the spectrum is explicitly told us. But if not, it is what it is.[/b]
Jesus loved the woman you were talking, you say he loved her so much that he died for her...that’s what you said.
Then in the next breath you support this incredulous notion that this same Jesus who LOVED her so much will personally torture her with flames for eternity.
Tell me sonship if you LOVED someone that much would you then torture them for eternity if they rejected you?
Can you honestly not see how utterly utterly nonsensical, amoral, and incoherent this teaching is?
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerI’m not explaining it to you. I’ll explain it to sonship IF he asks.
If it is not agreement with you, what basis do you use to decide that sonship is being dishonest?
Be thankful I’m even bothering to say this much to you.
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerPlease stop responding to my posts. I will ask you politely as ghost of a duke has done. I have no interest is talking to you, I have no respect for you whatsoever, I have tons of respect for sonship despite disagreeing with him. You are a vacuous bore.
It is also YOUR interpretation that sonship’s interpretation is wrong. The difference is that his interpretation is supported by scripture and yours isn’t.
Thank you for complying.
07 Jan 18
Originally posted by @suzianneI think that there is a difference between making a judgement about what is good and evil and looking for it in other people.
Some make that call, yes, and some get it disastrously wrong, because we are human, and we err. We do not have the "responsibility" to get it wrong. This is why we are told not to judge; unfortunately, some cannot resist.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterDivegeester, I will address your mighty "dodged" question below. Essentially, in the past, the tenure of this question I have spoken to before.
Here is the post reposted for the third time, and the two questions you are dodging are in bold.
Jesus loved the woman you were talking, you say he loved her so much that he died for her...that’s what you said.
Then in the next breath you support this incredulous notion that this same Jesus who LOVED her so much will personally torture her wit ...[text shortened]... nestly not see how utterly utterly nonsensical, amoral, and incoherent this teaching is?[/b]
It is another version of the general complaint - "But can't you see how un-Christian your belief IS ??"
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First let me say that two of you, Ghost and Dive have decided to request dj2becker just stop responding to you.
Realize that this mostly gives the impression that he may be exposing the weaknesses in some of your arguments.
There are plenty of posters who are more obnoxious then dj2becker. I mean - mean spirited, insulting, poisoning the well of discussion.
The fact that two of you have taken this approach could even suggest collusion. It looks that way a bit - a coordinated scheme.
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Originally posted by @sonshipTwadle. He’s a boring time wasting ass. If you think he has made a contribution that “exposes a weakness in some of my arguments” then please highlight it succinctly with links to the post he made. Otherwise please focus on our exchanges.
First let me say that two of you, Ghost and Dive have decided to request becker just stop responding to you.
Realize that this mostly gives the impression that he may be exposing the weaknesses in some of your arguments.
There are plenty of posters who are more obnoxious then him. I mean - mean spirited, insulting, poisoning the well of discussion. ...[text shortened]... aken this approach could even suggest collusion. It looks that way a bit - a coordinated scheme.
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07 Jan 18
Originally posted by @sonshipHere are the two questions you continue to avoid, you are even using Becker as a decoy now!
Divegeester, I will address your mighty "dodged" question below. Essentially, in the past, the tenure of this question I have spoken to before.
It is another version of the general complaint - "But can't you see how un-Christian your belief IS ??"
1 Tell me sonship if you LOVED someone that much would you then torture them for eternity if they rejected you?
2 Can you honestly not see how utterly utterly nonsensical, amoral, and incoherent this teaching is?
Both of these simple questions require a prefix of either yes or no, before any explanation please.
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Originally posted by @divegeesterNo, I will not re-write, re-post, re-link you to examples.
Twadle. He’s a boring time wasting ass. If you think he has made a contribution that “exposes a weakness in some of my arguments” then please highlight it succinctly with links to the post he made. Otherwise please focus on our exchanges.
And you might consider how you come off to others. But I doubt you will.
Loads of respect for sonship, huh? Hmmm!
Now to your mighty bombshell question that you think I can only dodge.
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Originally posted by @divegeester
ase.[/b]
1 Tell me sonship if you LOVED someone that much would you then torture them for eternity if they rejected you?
2 Can you honestly not see how utterly utterly nonsensical, amoral, and incoherent this teaching is?
Both of these simple questions require a prefix of either yes or no, before any explanation please.
No, I reserve the right not to respond with a simple binary Yes or No, not when I want to examine the matter in depth.
Now, if you want to force me to a binary answer, and insist anything beyond one word is "waffle" or boring, tell me.
Are you going to let me examine in depth the issues of your questions as I want to?
07 Jan 18
Originally posted by @divegeesterThere won't be brimstones and so on, you'll just be condemned to take part in this thread for the rest of time.
Here is the post reposted for the third time, and the two questions you are dodging are in bold.
Jesus loved the woman you were talking, you say he loved her so much that he died for her...that’s what you said.
Then in the next breath you support this incredulous notion that this same Jesus who LOVED her so much will personally torture her wit ...[text shortened]... nestly not see how utterly utterly nonsensical, amoral, and incoherent this teaching is?[/b]
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerI think this would make the point that he has little ground to accuse others of dodging.
Should we make a list of the questions that divegeester is avoiding?
The same is true of FMF. But a better use of your time, I think, IF Ghost and Dive refuse to be responded to by you, is to just point out what is wrong with some of their arguments.
The more important ones, I think, would be helpful.