‘Eternal suffering’ is nonsensical

Originally posted by @fmf
I think it's time for me to stop. I think I am giving dj2becjer exactly the kind of attention he craves.

Coincidentally you also happen not to have a comeback?

Originally posted by @divegeester
I’m not familiar with the writers you mention. What I’m interested in is how you reconcile incoherence of Jesus torturing people in eternal suffering with scriptures such as John 3:16 for example?

And these two comments below which I asked you is you had biblical support for:

[b]It would be an injustice to not send some people to hell...

... You can't simply let everyone slip into heaven.[/b]

Bump for Jacob Verville

Originally posted by @fmf
I think it's time for me to stop. I think I am giving dj2becjer exactly the kind of attention he craves.

Becker says "I think when someone is saved their sinning will be less and less frequent as God convicts them of their sin and transforms them into the image of Jesus...."

Romans answers, "Exactly. Those who have accepted Christ are a new creation."


*Forum tactic - Agree with oneself and give oneself a thumbs up.

Comedy gold!

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Becker says "I think when someone is saved their sinning will be less and less frequent as God convicts them of their sin and transforms them into the image of Jesus...."

Romans answers, "Exactly. Those who have accepted Christ are a new creation."


*Forum tactic - Agree with oneself and give oneself a thumbs up.

Comedy gold!

So when you and FMF agree about something that is conclusive evidence that you are the same person? 🙄

You seem to be thinking very clearly for a mental health professional. 😞

Originally posted by @fmf
I think it's time for me to stop. I think I am giving dj2becjer exactly the kind of attention he craves.

Has the Spirituality Forum whack-a-mole king met his match ?

Originally posted by @sonship
Has the Spirituality Forum whack-a-mole king met his match ?

Don’t you sometimes take a step back and perceive your version of Jesus as playing “whack-a-mole” in hell?

Originally posted by @divegeester
Don’t you sometimes take a step back and perceive your version of Jesus as playing “whack-a-mole” in hell?

There is no eternal suffering?

This never ending thread contradicts itself.

How ironic is that?

Originally posted by @whodey
There is no eternal suffering?

This never ending thread contradicts itself.

How ironic is that?

Incoherent.

As usual your use of words lacks economy, clarity and efficacy.

Originally posted by @divegeester
I’m not familiar with the writers you mention. What I’m interested in is how you reconcile incoherence of Jesus torturing people in eternal suffering with scriptures such as John 3:16 for example?

And these two comments below which I asked you is you had biblical support for:

[b]It would be an injustice to not send some people to hell...

... You can't simply let everyone slip into heaven.[/b]

It is right in the gospels:

Matthew 25:46
"These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

Hell is referenced but not as eternal in other places, too, such as
:
Matthew 5:29-30
"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into hell

There's more like that in the parable of the sheep and the goats.

The old testament is full of punishment. Sodom and Gommorrah, the Great Flood, the exodus from Egypt, the Babylonian captivity due to the worship of false idols. What makes you think there aren't punishments, both temporal and beyond?

God does love the world, abd in loving the world he rewards the just and punishes the wicked.

Tell me. Dive, how is punishing the wicked not loving those who suffered through the wicked deeds?

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
It is right in the gospels:

Matthew 25:46
"These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

Hell is referenced but not as eternal in other places, too, such as
:
Matthew 5:29-30
"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your ...[text shortened]... ll me. Dive, how is punishing the wicked not loving those who suffered through the wicked deeds?

God does love the world, abd in loving the world he rewards the just and punishes the wicked.

Yet it seems most of Christianity believes that the dividing line is based on something else altogether. How do you square this?

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
It is right in the gospels:

Matthew 25:46
"These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

Hell is referenced but not as eternal in other places, too, such as
:
Matthew 5:29-30
"If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your ...[text shortened]... ll me. Dive, how is punishing the wicked not loving those who suffered through the wicked deeds?

Tell me. Dive, how is punishing the wicked not loving those who suffered through the wicked deeds?

This is a strikingly perverse conception of "love". Only someone with a lack of understanding and/or belief in the gospel preached by Jesus could hold such a belief.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
[b]God does love the world, abd in loving the world he rewards the just and punishes the wicked.

Yet it seems most of Christianity believes that the dividing line is based on something else altogether. How do you square this?[/b]

Please elaborate.

I am guessing you are referring to moralism. Simply, doing good, by itself, is enough for salvation. But do go on.

I think I type enough for all of you guys that you need to type a little bit, too. I do most of this from a phone. I can't just sit here having text parties by myself.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
[b]Tell me. Dive, how is punishing the wicked not loving those who suffered through the wicked deeds?

This is a strikingly perverse conception of "love". Only someone with a lack of understanding and/or belief in the gospel preached by Jesus could hold such a belief.[/b]

Please elaborate, again.

All you did is call this perverse without an explanation.

How am I supposed to respond?

It's not an argument.

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
Please elaborate.

I am guessing you are referring to moralism. Simply, doing good, by itself, is enough for salvation. But do go on.

I think I type enough for all of you guys that you need to type a little bit, too. I do most of this from a phone. I can't just sit here having text parties by myself.

Did you not write "he rewards the just and punishes the wicked"? Do you think most Christians believe that the dividing line between receiving eternal life and not, is based on whether an individual is "just" or "wicked" - or something else?

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
Please elaborate, again.

All you did is call this perverse without an explanation.

How am I supposed to respond?

It's not an argument.

Vengeance isn't about love. It's about hatred.