21 Dec 07
Originally posted by generalissimoWhoever you're talking to are a bunch of nincomepoops. What army are the Brits fighting that they are getting their as kicked? The Brits have as good an army as any in the world, just not as big, but then they do have a Big Brother.
hello
Actually a brazilian in Wales, but never mind...
i met some people who basically said "the british army=certain death"
but it cant be that awful right?
Granny.
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by smw6869I think he may have meant that the British Army=certain death, for anyone that screws with them. They are indeed top notch.
Whoever you're talking to are a bunch of nincomepoops. What army are the Brits fighting that they are getting their as kicked? The Brits have as good an army as any in the world, just not as big, but then they do have a Big Brother.
Granny.
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by chessisvanityShutup you damn coward.
Ask the kids who have a limb missing due to iraq....they don't have smiles on there faces.
I bet they regret it. They're all gung ho to go....young and dumb...
They come back messed up.
If we had the ideal of "kill everything that moves"...then i say go....
But the liberals of today won't let you...so after you get shot or shot at you can fire back....anyone who joins army is retarded.
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by Phlabibityou can get ... anything you want ...
They got a building down New York City, it's called Whitehall Street,
where you walk in, you get injected, inspected, detected, infected,
neglected and selected. I went down to get my physical examination one
day, and I walked in, I sat down, got good and drunk the night before, so
I looked and felt my best when I went in that morning. `Cause I wante ...[text shortened]... :
("KID, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?" )
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by Sam The Shamhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Paxton
He's talking about the Space Marines.
"That's IT, man, game over"!!
"Paxton has the unique distinction of being the only actor who has played characters killed by an Alien (as Private Hudson in Aliens), a Predator (as Jerry Lambert in Predator 2), and a Terminator (as the punk leader in The Terminator). (Lance Henriksen would be worthy of this distinction but for the word 'kill': his android character was dismembered but still functional and he requested deactivation in the sequel.)"
22 Dec 07
Joining the army is basically handing over control of your own ideas and actions in return for being taught how to actually cause harm to other humans. Sure, it pays well and you get fit, you may even learn thing that are important to you in life, get an education etc. But you need to weigh up how the balance between those things and actually being trained to kill people rests. Personally I can't think of anything more idiotic than putting my life on the line for something as ridiculous as patriotism, and agreeing to murder other humans.
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by StarrmanSo, again, if the Nazis were poised to invade the UK, as they were in 1940, you'd be happy to just invite them in? If the British of the time took that attitude, I imagine you'd be living under Nazi rule today, and I don't think they'd have much regard for your human rights.
Joining the army is basically handing over control of your own ideas and actions in return for being taught how to actually cause harm to other humans. Sure, it pays well and you get fit, you may even learn thing that are important to you in life, get an education etc. But you need to weigh up how the balance between those things and actually being traine ...[text shortened]... ife on the line for something as ridiculous as patriotism, and agreeing to murder other humans.
And killing in legitimate self-defence isn't murder.
22 Dec 07
Originally posted by Iron MonkeyOh please. Firstly, joining the army in time of peace is a completely different matter. Secondly, warfare is not legitimate self-defence, it is institutionalised apologist killing. The USA hasn't needed to defend itself for 60 odd years but that hasn't stopped it being involved in war as a national past-time.
So, again, if the Nazis were poised to invade the UK, as they were in 1940, you'd be happy to just invite them in? If the British of the time took that attitude, I imagine you'd be living under Nazi rule today, and I don't think they'd have much regard for your human rights.
And killing in legitimate self-defence isn't murder.
Originally posted by StarrmanFirstly, joining the army in time of peace is a completely different matter.
Oh please. Firstly, joining the army in time of peace is a completely different matter. Secondly, warfare is not legitimate self-defence, it is institutionalised apologist killing. The USA hasn't needed to defend itself for 60 odd years but that hasn't stopped it being involved in war as a national past-time.
well, it's a bit late to join when the enemy is already marching in, isn't it? what are you going to do, say 'oh sorry, we're not ready for you. please come back in a little while after we've recruited and trained our army'.
Secondly, warfare is not legitimate self-defence, it is institutionalised apologist killing.
of course war can be conducted in self-defence. if some other country attacks yours, and your country defends itself, that's legitimate self-defence. just war theory acknowledges that fact.
The USA hasn't needed to defend itself for 60 odd years but that hasn't stopped it being involved in war as a national past-time.
Of course it has needed to defend its interests, and does even today. There was the little matter of the cold war. Do you think the Russians would have held back if the US and NATO weren't armed and ready? Do you think that recapturing Kuwait from Saddam wasn't at least partly to defend US interests? Do you think that just because the enemy is not a state that it poses no threat?