Originally posted by nook7Yeah. My comment should be taken in the context of my proclamation this turn. 😉
WTF?
Spain, you are going down with you allies, my battles are currently being fought on captured territory - no enemy has tread on Russias hallowed turf - jeez - l have even had 2 of your provinces - the proverbial town bike in Spain!
Originally posted by HalitoseNeither. I do not need to turn on either of my allies to win; two of us need only amass 640 Gold provinces. That is obtainable without betraying anyone. France is already broken and soon most of mainland Spain will fall as well. The Spanish-Neapolitian force in Germany will soon be rolled back and then the Alliance can turn its full attention on our only serious threats in Naples and Turkey, as your territory is rapidly being occupied by the Alliance and your forces destroyed with little hope of replacing your losses.
So which one is it going to be? Sweden or Russia?
Originally posted by no1marauderOkay..... so Sweden or Russia will have to be satisfied being the third wheel -- doing a bit of your fighting without the prospect of walking away a winner at the end of the day. Perhaps you fellas should call a conference of the “Big Three” ala WWII and decide who’ll be the grudging loser.
Neither. I do not need to turn on either of my allies to win; two of us need only amass 640 Gold provinces. That is obtainable without betraying anyone. France is already broken and soon most of mainland Spain will fall as well. The Spanish-Neapolitian force in Germany will soon be rolled back and then the Alliance can turn its full attention on our only ...[text shortened]... ng occupied by the Alliance and your forces destroyed with little hope of replacing your losses.
Here's a though: maybe Russia and the Ottomans should call a truce, sign an alliance, bite Prussia in the rear with all those gold-rich provinces ripe for the taking and end up unlikely winners while Naples and what's left of Spain harry the Prussian juggernaut with its Swedish lackey to the point of boredom. 😛
Originally posted by HalitoseWhy would Russia ally with another major power (putting it in the same situation vis-a-vis victory conditions) when the Ottomans have about 1/2 the Gold value of Prussia and a much smaller army and fleet? Their chances of victory are far higher maintaining their present alliance; between the two of us we need only 132 more Gold province value, while with the Ottomans they would need 288. Your proposal makes about as much sense as scuttling a fleet.
Okay..... so Sweden or Russia will have to be satisfied being the third wheel -- doing a bit of your fighting without the prospect of walking away a winner at the end of the day. Perhaps you fellas should call a conference of the “Big Three” ala WWII and decide who’ll be the grudging loser.
Here's a though: maybe Russia and the Ottomans should call a t ...[text shortened]... of Spain harry the Prussian juggernaut with its Swedish lackey to the point of boredom. 😛
Originally posted by no1marauderThe Ottomans and the Russians could form a winning coalition.
Why would Russia ally with another major power (putting it in the same situation vis-a-vis victory conditions) when the Ottomans have about 1/2 the Gold value of Prussia and a much smaller army and fleet? Their chances of victory are far higher maintaining their present alliance; between the two of us we need only 132 more Gold province value, while wit ...[text shortened]... the Ottomans they would need 288. Your proposal makes about as much sense as scuttling a fleet.
Originally posted by no1marauderYou asked which possibility was more plausible, didn't you? Unless you're willing to stab Sweden in the back, the other option wins by default.
How??? Russia and the Ottomans need 288 Gold provinces; where do you think they can get them? By conquering ALL of Prussian territory??
Edit: I presume the answer to the question "Would you consider betraying your nephew?" is no.