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So IronMan was a cheat...

So IronMan was a cheat...

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Originally posted by Moldy Crow
Cut your losses , exy . In life , just like in chess , sometimes the best move you can make is to resign . This game is over , baby .
I don't have any "losses to cut"? What an idiot you are! The only thing that matters is that justice is done. Is Ironman/Dantes the FIDE ref xxxxxxxxxxxx- well, is he? Who knows? Does Russ?

I'm sorry but I fear that a huge miscarriage of justice is taking place here and it's nothing to do with what I or No1 think about IM31 - it's about what processes are in place, put there by the Admins to deal with this. You can't a ban the top player for yonks at this site without an explanation, not when those that know him are aware that he's proclaiming his innocence.

Totally out of order. 😳

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Originally posted by fierytorment
You guys like the system? fine......

just don't cry when the shoe is on the other foot
i presume you don't know moldy crow only has one leg or was that a cruel joke..

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Originally posted by fierytorment
You guys like the system? fine......

just don't cry when the shoe is on the other foot
I don't cheat , it's obvious , and so I don't have to worry about that happening . I think it's safe to say that about any honest player on this site .

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Originally posted by no1marauder:
Yes, so is saying the Sun will rise in the East tomorrow.


Originally posted by Shavixmir:
Yes. And that also depends on which hemisphere you're standing in, doesn't it?


How come no one noticed this? Probably the funniest thing about this whole thread! Shav, dude! Good morning sunshine! The sun just rose in the west, we must be in the southern hemisphere... damn... dude...

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Originally posted by Exy
WRONG.

If the Site's Policy on Cheating worked then small fry like No1 wouldn't be allowed to happen. If he wants to report his analysis to the Game Mods then fair play to him.

The bottom line is that the process needs to be clear cut - how do you report - on what basis - what will the Game Mods do - on what evidence shall they act - when someone is b ...[text shortened]... the trouble to read him his rights and tell him why. It's beyond shocking, it's embarrassing.
I'm really getting sick of your s**t, nitwit; what I do in my clan forum ain't your business. I know it's killing ya that I was right and you were wrong about IM and Yozzer but get over it. I'm right most of the time except when I argue with my supermodel wife.

The level of your hypocrisy is utterly astounding; page after page in the Clan Forum you insisted that the Game Mods knew what they were doing and that you trusted them 1000%. You look like a complete idiot doing a 180 degree turn just days later.

IM and the others were bounced cuz they cheated. Period. I do not know if I was the first to report him, but if I was good for me. He was making chumps out of honest people on this site for years; good riddance. You think he doesn't know why he got tossed?? Pleeeeeeeeze. I still would prefer an accused being presented with the evidence against them, but you never cared about that until today. Bloody hypocrite.

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Originally posted by Exy
I don't have any "losses to cut"? What an idiot you are! The only thing that matters is that justice is done. Is Ironman/Dantes the FIDE ref Afro xxxxxx - well, is he? Who knows? Does Russ?

I'm sorry but I fear that a huge miscarriage of justice is taking place here and it's nothing to do with what I or No1 think about IM31 - it's about what ...[text shortened]... those that know him are aware that he's proclaiming his innocence.

Totally out of order. 😳
I hear donkeys braying .

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it was an expression of speech, no offense intended

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I can't be bothered to read all the 200 odd posts but could it just be possible that ironman could have been just as good as a top chess engine like the king which is beatable? so surely he must have come across more than two opponents that can beat the engine?

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I'm sorry, but there is too many unanswered questions here to just ban Ironman. He has to be able to defend himself and answer legit questions that would prove his guilt or his innocense.

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Originally posted by fierytorment
I'm sorry, but there is too many unanswered questions here to just ban Ironman. He has to be able to defend himself and answer legit questions that would prove his guilt or his innocense.
That can be done with a new account.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
I'm really getting sick of your s**t, nitwit; what I do in my clan forum ain't your business. I know it's killing ya that I was right and you were wrong about IM and Yozzer but get over it. I'm right most of the time except when I argue with my supermodel wife.

The level of your hypocrisy is utterly astounding; page after page in the Clan F ...[text shortened]... ed with the evidence against them, but you never cared about that until today. Bloody hypocrite.
The only thing that I care about is that whatever system is put officially in place should be able to justify it's actions. I've been humouring No1 throughout his "private forum / I'm leaving period", it's not his fault that there isn't a decent, official system in place to stop people like him taking the law into his hands.

Ironman's banning in my mind has nothing to do with No1marauder or anyone else. In the 2 years I have played Chess at this site I have understood that Edmond Dantes / Ironman31 was the FIDE referee Afro xxxxxx, if that is the case then I cannot believe that somebody like that would be stupid enough to get caught blatantly cheating on a public correspondence chess site, and until the ADMINS (nobody else is relevant) prove that he either isn't who he appears to be or show the evidence as to why they know he is a cheat then they should expect this kind of criticism.

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Originally posted by fierytorment
it was an expression of speech, no offense intended
She's yanking your chain , dude . You got punked by the wuckster ! I've got all of my parts .


Edit : wucky - RECED !

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Originally posted by Exy
I don't have any "losses to cut"? What an idiot you are! The only thing that matters is that justice is done. Is Ironman/Dantes the FIDE ref Afro xxxxxx- well, is he? Who knows? Does Russ?

I'm sorry but I fear that a huge miscarriage of justice is taking place here and it's nothing to do with what I or No1 think about IM31 - it's about what ...[text shortened]... those that know him are aware that he's proclaiming his innocence.

Totally out of order. 😳
So what if he is xxxxxx??? xxxxxxwas a 1900 rated player in correspondence tournaments which he hasn't played in one since 1993! He matches up on this site to an engine in the high 90% while playing a 100 games at a time and that ain't humanly possible. He's a CHEAT!!!!

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Originally posted by Exy
WRONG.

If the Site's Policy on Cheating worked then small fry like No1 wouldn't be allowed to happen. If he wants to report his analysis to the Game Mods then fair play to him.

The bottom line is that the process needs to be clear cut - how do you report - on what basis - what will the Game Mods do - on what evidence shall they act - when someone is b ...[text shortened]... the trouble to read him his rights and tell him why. It's beyond shocking, it's embarrassing.
If the Site's Policy on Cheating worked then small fry like No1 wouldn't be allowed to happen. If he wants to report his analysis to the Game Mods then fair play to him.


Marauder has mentioned before that he already presented his "case" to the mods ... he wasn't happy about the time it took them to analyze it.

The bottom line is that the process needs to be clear cut - how do you report - on what basis - what will the Game Mods do - on what evidence shall they act - when someone is banned will the community know why - what evidence, albeit layman's shall be reported back?!

From the very start it has been mentioned that there will be NO PUBLIC proces report. Yet ... now ... you start your rant that it isn't fair. Its just like the tiresome discussion about "freedom of speech" a year ago that got Cribs banned. The site admins made it very clear that this site is NOT a democracy ... screaming that that is also not right will not change it ... you will either have to live with it or leave ... that was the same message I received when defending the "freedom of speech" issue.

None of this is working. Ironman31 has been scalped cos he's top dog, only cos No1 has created a stink.

This is complete and utter bull menure ... take some anti paranoia pills!!!

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Originally posted by Exy
The only thing that [b]I care about is that whatever system is put officially in place should be able to justify its action. I've been humouring No1 throughout his "private forum / I'm leaving period", it's not his fault that there isn't a decent, official system in place to stop people like him taking the law into his hands.

Ironman's bann ...[text shortened]... w the evidence as to why they know he is a cheat then they should expect this kind of criticism.[/b]
Why don't you pay for an article is chess life asking your "real person" to respond in print in next months edition. I would like to see in print in that magazine saying he was unfairly jolted from this site and would like his account back. He should at least be able to clear his name now that the likes of you have plastered it all over attaching it to a computer program. I am sure he would like to clear his name and would jump at the chane to do so.

Fair enough to me. If they are "who" they say they are it should be easily confirmable.....agreed?

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