Barriers to belief

Originally posted by FMF
Evidence to support the claims Christains make about God, Jesus and themselves. This is a 18 word answer.

What specific evidence might that be? Less than 18 words will suffice.

Originally posted by Eladar
Obviously...

But do you notice that the seed grows in the rocky soil and in the weeds?

There is no guarantee that if you are part of the elect just because you claim to be a christian and believe it in your heart.

I do notice that the word faith is never used. So do you believe you are part of the 'elect'? And what exactly do you mean by the elect?

Originally posted by divegeester
See if you can work it out; I can send you a study guide if you like.

Why don't you tell me why you believe the parable refers to faith when the word 'faith' is never mentioned once?

Originally posted by Eladar
Not upset with you just being honest.

The guy you are dealinf with hereis steeped in once saved always saved theology common to many baptists.

You are ignorant of this groups beliefs and their definition of terms.

Not a baptist and neither a OSAS. I don't belong to any denomination. What about you?

Originally posted by Eladar
I never said I believe in your God.

Oh, well excuse me.

Which God do you believe in?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Why don't you tell me why you believe the parable refers to faith when the word 'faith' is never mentioned once?

Why do not you tell me why the word faith doesn't appear in the parrable but the words "soil" and "bird" do?

Originally posted by divegeester
Why do not you tell me why the word faith doesn't appear in the parrable but the words "soil" and "bird" do?

No idea. Please enlighten me.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
No idea. Please enlighten me.

It's the same reason the word "faith" doesn't appear.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Not a baptist and neither a OSAS. I don't belong to any denomination. What about you?

Presently I am attending a Baptist church. For the most part I am like you and don't agree totalky with any denomination.

Your line of thinking is very much once saved always saved with the really saved question.

Originally posted by divegeester
It's the same reason the word "faith" doesn't appear.

So without beating about the bush are you implying the birds may have stolen FMFs faith?

Originally posted by Eladar
Presently I am attending a Baptist church. For the most part I am like you and don't agree totalky with any denomination.

Your line of thinking is very much once saved always saved with the really saved question.

What is your line of thinking on this issue? You seem to be a Calvanist?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So without beating around the bush are you implying the birds may have stolen FMFs faith?

What numbers can you see in the parable?

Originally posted by divegeester
What numbers can you see in the parable?

Devastating isn't it if your sarcasm is of such a high level that people think you are stupid. 😀

Originally posted by divegeester
Oh, well excuse me.

Which God do you believe in?

This falls back to Christianity being a nebulous term.

My God is the creator and the created have no right to either judge the creator or usurp the position of the creator.

The nature of hell is God's responsibility. It is not our position to judge it.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Devastating isn't it if your sarcasm is of such a high level that people think you are stupid. 😀

So...if the bird eats the seed that landed on rocky ground but subsequently spits out the seed, does this mean that FMF has lost or regained his salvation?