07 Mar 19
Right: there is no empirical proof that that happened. It has to be taken on faith. Yet, all of the pieces are present for this to be put together and understood.
Yet... to maintain our free will... it is not perfectly & plainly obvious. It is a leap that we have to take.
And yes, I am a philosophy guy~!
What did you study in Uni?
07 Mar 19
@philokalia saidDid you miss the critical thinking module on your philosophy course?
Right: there is no empirical proof that that happened. It has to be taken on faith. Yet, all of the pieces are present for this to be put together and understood.
Yet... to maintain our free will... it is not perfectly & plainly obvious. It is a leap that we have to take.
07 Mar 19
@philokalia saidExactly, subjectivity.
Right: there is no empirical proof that that happened. It has to be taken on faith. Yet, all of the pieces are present for this to be put together and understood.
Yet... to maintain our free will... it is not perfectly & plainly obvious. It is a leap that we have to take.
Did you cover objectively and subjectivity on your philosophy course?
@philokalia said"All of the pieces are present for the ideas to be put together and understood" [that it is utterly preposterous and heretical to claim that God came down to Earth and walked about] to the way of thinking of a Muslim. "All of the pieces are present for the ideas to be put together and understood" [that Jesus was an imposter] to the way of thinking of a Jew, while we are at it. The Jesus story. It inspires faith or lack of faith, not "objective" truth.
Right: there is no empirical proof that that happened. It has to be taken on faith. Yet, all of the pieces are present for this to be put together and understood.
07 Mar 19
@fmf saidI think Jacob has boxed up his chess pieces, taken his side of the board and gone home.
"All of the pieces are present for the ideas to be put together and understood" [that it is utterly preposterous and heretical to claim that God came down to Earth and walked about] to the way of thinking of a Muslim. "All of the pieces are present for the ideas to be put together and understood" [that Jesus was an imposter] to the way of thinking of a Jew, while we are at it. The Jesus story. It inspires faith or lack of faith, not "objective" truth.
07 Mar 19
@divegeester saidWe live in the age of grace. Not my interpretation. That's what the Bible says.
Yes I believe what the Bible says. What I don’t believe is YOUR interpretation of what the Bible says.
KellyJay, sonship and you all seem to suffer with a mental block on this point because your vanity allows you to assert that what you believe is THE truth.
KellyJay is getting himself into pickles with this on a weekly basis. He is currently claiming that his opi ...[text shortened]... l that matters his talking to the truth. In others words his posts are truth. It’s amusing to watch.
The wrath of God is on the docket. Not my interpretation. That's what the Bible says.
Claiming that that is my interpretation is just your way of expressing your bias and dislike of those that believe what the Bible says, on virtually every given topic.
It's your mental block.
07 Mar 19
@secondson saidI really can see why your church leaders don’t let you teach.
We live in the age of grace. Not my interpretation. That's what the Bible says.
The wrath of God is on the docket. Not my interpretation. That's what the Bible says.
Claiming that that is my interpretation is just your way of expressing your bias and dislike of those that believe what the Bible says, on virtually every given topic.
It's your mental block.
07 Mar 19
@secondson saidDo you, like philokalia, feel that the JW god which demands child sacrifice, is full of “goodness”?
Your perspective is skewed. Philokalia, myself and others with a biblical world view are realists.
See my thread on the matter if it’s something you can muster.
07 Mar 19
@divegeester saidMore bogus Christian deflection.
I really can see why your church leaders don’t let you teach.
07 Mar 19
@divegeester saidMore off topic bogus Christian deflection.
Do you, like philokalia, feel that the JW god which demands child sacrifice, is full of “goodness”?
See my thread on the matter if it’s something you can muster.
Not interested in any thread you start as I am quite certain it's full of your miscellany of unscriptural imaginings.
07 Mar 19
@secondson saidDeflection from what? You didn’t actually say anything.
More bogus Christian deflection.
07 Mar 19
@divegeester saidYou didn't actually read anything.
Deflection from what? You didn’t actually say anything.
07 Mar 19
@secondson saidThis is a problem with Christianity today, people are actually trying to make it into a popularity contest.
We live in the age of grace. Not my interpretation. That's what the Bible says.
The wrath of God is on the docket. Not my interpretation. That's what the Bible says.
Claiming that that is my interpretation is just your way of expressing your bias and dislike of those that believe what the Bible says, on virtually every given topic.
It's your mental block.
I hear all kinds of Chriistians say "it's not my opinion, it says this right in the Bible". Yes, it IS 'your opinion' because what anyone claims is mostly their interpretation of what is written. This is nowhere better seen than right here in this very forum, where we have a constant back-and-forth over doctrine. By claiming that a Bible passage means what you interpret it to mean, and nothing else, you're appealing to your audience, i.e. making the meaning of scripture into a popularity contest.
10 Mar 19
@suzianne saidExcellent point!
This is a problem with Christianity today, people are actually trying to make it into a popularity contest.
I hear all kinds of Chriistians say "it's not my opinion, it says this right in the Bible". Yes, it IS 'your opinion' because what anyone claims is mostly their interpretation of what is written. This is nowhere better seen than right here in this very foru ...[text shortened]... , you're appealing to your audience, i.e. making the meaning of scripture into a popularity contest.