@philokalia saidPunished by whom and for what purpose?
We aren't talking about whether or not LIFE IS LIKE PLAYING WITH A KNIFE, we are talking about how a person gets unintended results from their actions which is them being punished by their own poor choices and actions.
19 Jul 19
@philokalia said"Mr. Bigbrain"? What are you on about?
O Mr. Bigbrain, tell me how I'm feeble minded if this appeals to me, lol.
19 Jul 19
@philokalia saidBut he is sent to gaol by a judge, right?
When a criminal commits a crime and is sent to jail, he isn't sent to jail by the judge for some arbitrary reason. He has committed a crime. He has sent himself to jail.
If there is no one who is going to send me to a "Hell", what do I have to worry about?
If your God figure is the "judge" and intends to send me to the place called "Hell" that he created in order to inflict neverending pain and issue a "reprimand" why is all this being kept essentially secret from me? You asserting that all these things are true does not seem credible. All you are doing is talking about superstitious notions that appeal to your imagination. So the reality of it remains basically a secret.
19 Jul 19
@philokalia saidI'll ask again, intellectually speaking, does your cut-by-a-knife analogy work on you?
Just as such, the carelessness of one's actions results in cutting yourself while cutting something else.
How is this a silly comparison?
19 Jul 19
@philokalia saidI don't seek to divest you of what you believe. I'm just giving you the opportunity to make a morally coherent case for tormenting someone in burning flames for eternity for thoughtcrimes. You don't seem able to.
You don't mount effective arguments at what I'm saying and instead make category errors while we debate.
19 Jul 19
@philokalia saidThat’s because you’re not actually saying anything.
None of the people in this thread have refuted what I am defending and you haven't even argued against it much at all now, have you?
@philokalia saidLiving my life is not analogous to slicing food ingredients.
Second, do people cut themselves while slicing food ingredients?
19 Jul 19
@philokalia saidAre you failing to understand my posts, I’ve already answered these silly questions. Go back and read my previous replies to you.
But Christ isn't actively torturing anyone.
People send themselves to hell by their own actions, do they not?
Are you or are you not responsible for what you do?
19 Jul 19
@philokalia saidI am not driving a car. And I am not drunk. My life is not like driving a car drunk. I am not going to choose to have myself sent to "Hell" to be tormented - by nobody and for no reason - in burning flames for eternity.
Do people kill themselves while drunk driving?
19 Jul 19
@philokalia saidStart a thread on that topic and we can see if you know anything more about that than you do about this one.
You didn't think it was biblical that man is created in the image of God. I wouldn't exactly say you're a very well versed theologian.
I don't say that to shame you but someone has to point out that you aren't a good judge of who is and who isn't being biblically founded.
19 Jul 19
@philokalia saidYou don’t seem to know much about what the bible does and doesn’t say. I imagine that KellyJay and sonship, who have both forgotten more about the bible than you will ever know, are to embarrassed to join this thread and support you.
Yes. They're good analogies.
Tell me where the error is.
19 Jul 19
@divegeester saidThe concept that man is created in the image rod God is a fundamental doctrine in Christianity.
Start a thread on that topic and we can see if you know anything more about that than you do about this one.
The fact that you reject hell, though, makes it less surprising that you'd throw out other vital parts of our biblical heritage...
Not sure what to say, bruh.
19 Jul 19
@fmf saidDude, it's about how you can incur unintended consequences through your actions.
I am not driving a car. And I am not drunk. My life is not like driving a car drunk. I am not going to choose to have myself sent to "Hell" to be tormented - by nobody and for no reason - in burning flames for eternity.
19 Jul 19
@philokalia saidNo, I don't. At least, no one has given me a credible reason to believe I do. And that includes you. Your assertion does me no harm though. You don't have an immortal soul. When you die, that will be the end of you ~ whether you recognize it or not, as you say. My assertion is doing you no harm.
You have an immortal soul whether you recognize it or not.
19 Jul 19
@philokalia saidPhilokalia, what is the point of eternal suffering?
You have an immortal soul whether you recognize it or not.
Just as such, I am a mortal who will fade into nothing if you are right, whether I recognize that or not is equally irrelevant.
Have no quotes from St Penis of Antioch™ (FMF) which you can produce to help you explain what thoughts you have.