Has religion served its purpose?

@pb1022 said
You have but I’m not going to repeat your obscenities and vulgarity.And I note you still haven’t answered how your relationship with God through Jesus Christ manifested itself.

It was you who recently said, to me: "I wouldn’t waste my time researching an answer to a question posed by an anonymous person on a chess website - especially one as rude and classless as you." You may feel entitled to personal about my life in the 70s, 80, and 90s, but you are not.

@divegeester said
Why are you taking about “profession”, do you mean career? If so I have no idea why you are talking about that.

I’m asking you that if you, KellyJay, had lost your faith at your time of death would you go to hell?

If you are asking, can I waver and immediately be destroyed and sent to hell? No, Jesus knows His own; it is always on Him, not us, for our salvation. That is quite a difference between having doubt and walking away entirely.

You need to define your terms; what do you mean by losing your faith? Is it like losing your car keys, having an arm chopped off? What is it that is lost? You now no longer believe something you thought was a fact is no longer true? You claim to be a Christian, right; you think there is something so important on the planet that could destroy your walk with the Lord? Our faith is in Christ, not ourselves; if you think for some reason we lose faith in Christ, what possibly could do that? Death cannot separate us from God, sickness, or anything else; you seem to be under the impression it is all on us. Many walk away; for some, this world, sin, their hopes are more important in this temporary life than the Lord they choose.

@fmf said
Yes or No?

if you lost your belief in Jesus over a period of time in a decade from now, would it mean you didn't believe in Jesus in January 2022? Yes or no?

Define what you mean by that; I've asked you that more than once too. Lose my faith, meaning I go from loving God to hating Him; I love this world more than Him; what do you mean by losing my faith. My faith in God being real, I now believe nothing is the cause of everything, precisely what are you asking? What changed for you?

@kellyjay said
Define what you mean by that; I've asked you that more than once too. Lose my faith, meaning I go from loving God to hating Him

In over a decade of conversations with you when have I ever talked about "hating God"?

@kellyjay said
what do you mean by losing my faith?

I truly believed I had Christ in my life and that belief included an unconditional acceptance of what I [at that time] was convinced the Bible told all Christians about the identity of Christ and the significance of his life and death. I lost this faith.

@fmf said
I truly believed I had Christ in my life and that belief included an unconditional acceptance of what I [at that time] was convinced the Bible told all Christians about the identity of Christ and the significance of his life and death. I lost this faith.

What caused you to lose your faith?

@pb1022 said
What caused you to lose your faith?

Nothing has changed since 2018 when I told you.

@fmf said
Nothing has changed since 2018 when I told you.

Dodge noted

@pb1022 said
What caused you to lose your faith?

You'll just have to settle for what I've already told you. Interpersonally, you seem to think you can behave as you do, and yet STILL be entitled to personal information from "an anonymous person on a chess website".

In September 2018, in the run-up to you being banned from the site, I gave you some personal information about my former faith, and you spammed the forum for weeks with mocking comments about it and called me a "pathological liar" repeatedly. Take that personal information of mine again, and make of it what you will.

@fmf said
You'll just have to settle for what I've already told you. Interpersonally, you seem to think you can behave as you do, and yet STILL be entitled to personal information from "an anonymous person on a chess website".

In September 2018, in the run-up to you being banned from the site, I gave you some personal information about my former faith, and you spammed the forum for wee ...[text shortened]... ogical liar" repeatedly. Take that personal information of mine again, and make of it what you will.

And, as predictable as the sunrise, you get dishonest and personal when confronted with a question you can’t (or prefer not to) answer.

@pb1022 said
And, as predictable as the sunrise, you get dishonest and personal when confronted with a question you can’t (or prefer not to) answer.

I most certainly prefer not to reveal any personal information to you or to discuss any such information with you, having revealed it to anyone else.

@fmf said
In over a decade of conversations with you when have I ever talked about "hating God"?

I'm asking you to describe to me losing one's faith. You keep asking me about what if I lost mine; I don't think that can happen, but if I'm unaware of what you mean, how could I know. So tell me, what does losing one's faith mean?

@kellyjay said
If you are asking, can I waver and immediately be destroyed and sent to hell?

But I’m not asking that am I. I’m asking you a very very simple question which you dodge and dodge, pretend you don’t under stand, deliberately answer a different question.

Here let me keep trying..what do you believe on this…

If you, or any sincere lifelong Christian, lost your faith at the point of death and died with that loss of faith, would you/they be cast into hell as if you had never believed?

Please try to answer this question.

@fmf said
I truly believed I had Christ in my life and that belief included an unconditional acceptance of what I [at that time] was convinced the Bible told all Christians about the identity of Christ and the significance of his life and death. I lost this faith.

So losing one's faith in this context is that you no longer believe in Christ, He went from a loving Savior to a non-existent being, or you no longer felt you could trust Him, you no longer felt worthy? I'm not trying to catch you, trip you up, accuse you of anything. I know I'm asking something of you, something very personal, and you ask me to stop, I will.

@pb1022 said
Dodge noted

Have you forgotten what FMF told you in 2018?