The god who burns people alive for eternity

@philokalia said
OK, OK, OK. In all seriousness, though, where is the big question?

Perhaps I am too stupid to read far enough into your posts. Have mercy on me and tell me the question that you want me to tackle.

Or, be merciful in another way, and stop accusing me of running away.

Certainly, when a man who asks for the mystery question, and he doesn't receive the mystery question, he cannot be blamed for running away from the mystery question, right?

@sonship said
I think some have taken a position that if they cannot understand it according t it is not to be believed. Judgment beyond the grave as a inflicted hurtful thing, is to them impossible.

@FMF

I think some have taken a position that if they cannot understand it according t it is not to be believed. Judgment beyond the grave as a inflicted hurtful thing, is to them impossible.

You are being deceitful. I can't remember ANY non-believer here asking you about the "science" of eternal torture. That's a straw man. You are asked about the "morality" of eternal torture, and all we get in response are variations on the "It is because it is" assertions of faith. Don't be so dishonest.

Philoklia,

I think some have taken a position that if they cannot understand it according t it is not to be believed. Judgment beyond the grave as a inflicted hurtful thing, is to them impossible.

@sonship said
@FMF

I think some have taken a position that if they cannot understand it according t it is not to be believed. Judgment beyond the grave as a inflicted hurtful thing, is to them impossible.

The word "some" is the decisive word in that paragraph.

Being Super Self you of course inserted your omnipresence and ego centrality into it as - "NOT applying to ME."

So it is "disingenuous" if you're not the center of everything here.

@sonship said

You are being deceitful. I can't remember ANY non-believer here asking you about the "science" of eternal torture. That's a straw man. You are asked about the "morality" of eternal torture, and all we get in response are variations on the "It is because it is" assertions of faith. Don't be so dishonest.

The word "science" may not have been used. The impl ...[text shortened]... erring to many more things that have been said against eternal judgment then occurred on this Forum.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Kelly, if you read back in this thread I have been very clear about what I have written and why I have written it. (And repeated things when necessary). Point to where I haven't done this.

@sonship said
I have a couple books filled with arguments from Annilatinists and Universalists from various angles.

My comment was not restricted to the several opposing posters here.

@FMF

You can't name one. Not even the dyed in the wool scientist twhitehead quibbled the science instead of tackling the issue of morality. Not even Kazetnaggora, another science-oriented non-believer quibbled it. The issue has always been the morality. Ghost of a Duke doesn't quibble the science; he questions the morality. You're being deceitful.

Fire kills people stone dead and utterly destroys their bodies. It can do it in minutes. Is the fire somehow different in your "future event"?

@kellyjay said
Is stating your beliefs how you arrived at them?

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Yes, it is my belief that a loving deity wouldn't torment people for all eternity in the fires of hell, and that any Christian who thinks otherwise has allowed their faith to corrupt their human morality.

If anyone spots one of the Christians here unequivocally addressing the challenge in my OP please do let me know.

Many thanks.

@divegeester

If anyone spots one of the Christians here unequivocally addressing the challenge in my OP please do let me know.

Many thanks.

@sonship said
@divegeester

Does that means you'll go away until you are notified?