@secondson saidIt is not a matter of 'erasing' the doctrine of eternal torment but 'highlighting' the absurdity of such a notion if one is to uphold the finer qualities of the divine. The bible says God 'IS' love. I think Christians who buy into the whole eternal suffering narrative have forgotten this.
Have you noticed sonship how desperately divegeester, Ghost, FMF and the Rajk try to erase the doctrine of everlasting punishment that is so clearly put forth in the Bible by whatever means they can contrive? Including, but not limited to, ad hom and belittling criticisms, and yet are unable to nullify what the scriptures have to say about it?
Clearly they are threatened ...[text shortened]... heir names will not be found in the book of life.
Jesus said after all, "my sheep hear my voice".
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIf you are going to speak about God, at least do it with all of the facts before you. Right now the only one you are referring to is this cookie-cutter one-dimensional version that doesn't exist anywhere except between your ears!
It is not a matter of 'erasing' the doctrine of eternal torment but 'highlighting' the absurdity of such a notion if one is to uphold the finer qualities of the divine. The bible says God 'IS' love. I think Christians who buy into the whole eternal suffering narrative have forgotten this.
@kellyjay saidDo you mean to say that your God figure doesn't only exist between your ears?
If you are going to speak about God, at least do it with all of the facts before you. Right now the only one you are referring to is this cookie-cutter one-dimensional version that doesn't exist anywhere except between your ears!
@kellyjay saidNo. I am taking as a starting point the commonly accepted qualities that the Christian God is supposed to be endowed with, including omniscience, omnipotence, and omnibenevolence. It is 'this' God that I argue is not compatible with the God of eternal torment.
If you are going to speak about God, at least do it with all of the facts before you. Right now the only one you are referring to is this cookie-cutter one-dimensional version that doesn't exist anywhere except between your ears!
I have been crystal clear on this.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidNo, you are not taking the starting point of commonly accepted qualities of the Christian God and yet, that is who you are talking about.
No. I am taking as a starting point the commonly accepted qualities that the Christian God is supposed to be endowed with, including omniscience, omnipotence, and omnibenevolence. It is 'this' God that I argue is not compatible with the God of eternal torment.
I have been crystal clear on this.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidIf you are just arguing that this god you are making up cannot do the things that the Christian does, just say that. If you don't, you should tell ToO your really sorry for doing what he does and you harp on him.
No. I am taking as a starting point the commonly accepted qualities that the Christian God is supposed to be endowed with, including omniscience, omnipotence, and omnibenevolence. It is 'this' God that I argue is not compatible with the God of eternal torment.
I have been crystal clear on this.
@kellyjay saidYou do not consider these qualities as commonly accepted of the Christian God?
No, you are not taking the starting point of commonly accepted qualities of the Christian God and yet, that is who you are talking about.
1. Omniscience
2. Omnipotence
3. Omnibenevolence